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Biggest loophole in Google: Assuming that most of links are natural

Is there a bigger loophole?

         

AjiNIMC

4:46 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Biggest loophole in Google:
Assuming that most of links are natural.

Biggest Exploitation: If the deal is hidden and not caught then the link is natural.

Other Exploitations

  1. Submitting article to sites from where you will not get more than 2 visitors, one you and other the Site owner. Now we can call it natural links. Or from sites which accepts almost every article and offers you almost no traffic.
  2. Buying an ad. We can call it natural link, as how else will I make the communication happen.
  3. Link exchange. I recommended him and he recommended me. Just to share the traffic you see as diapers and beer are related industry. It is natural too.
  4. Affiliate sites. They are our partners and they all recommend us.

Assuming links to be Votes (as Google see it)


  1. Article submission: Give me vote and I will give you goodies (content and information). I do not give goodies to those who do not give me votes. Give and take policy.
  2. I can pay money for votes. Rich people can easily win elections for shorter term.
  3. You vote for me for the president position for post 1 and I will vote for you for the president position for post 2. You happy I happy.
  4. See we are business partners so vote to me.

Exploitation list can be long but we can call everything natural. Everything works as Google is assuming that most of links are natural. Take the top 10 websites for any competitive keyphrase, how many of its links are naturally natural (we can term almost every link natural if the deal is hidden).

IMO utopia is (all webmasters helping goolge)


  1. Article submission: You call me for a conference and I will talk about topics which interest your crowd with a nofollow link. I made myself visible and if anyone appreciates me then you can recommend me anytime. For recommendation your involvement is not needed.
  2. I am rich and I can throw parties, do charities and all stuff with nofollow links. I will make myself visible through my money If anyone thinks I am really cool recommend me anytime with a link when you talk about my subject.
  3. I make you visible with a nofollow link to my society and you make me visible with a nofollow link to your society. If people likes us then let them vote.
  4. We did business together. You made me visible to the world with a nofollow link. If people like me let them vote for me.

Googles assumption will work only if all webmasters enter utopia state else to win you will start Exploiting the assumption (which is the current state).

What do you think?
1) Somewhat I can agree
2) I agree completely that without exploiting we can't win as everyone else is doing and only few are caught.
3) I do not agree at all. I get all links by pure votes.

AjiNIMC

6:33 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



According to many (almost all), one of the white hat seo is directory submission. Do we really do it for traffic? How many directories give us traffic, we know the answers (IMO Dmoz.org can give some traffic. May be hedir.com is the only one which is working towards casual visitors with feature additions like story, widget, wikis, blogs and community review system targetting casual visitors)? The ones which gives the traffic starts asking for money like business.com (but I am not sure for $99 per annum is a worth investment or not). Is Yahoo directory worth $275 from traffic point of view, did anyone but that link for traffic? Do we visit directories to find best sites, how many do we do? Will google ever submit to a directory under search engine category? What sites we will find under "search engine" category, will we find google, yahoo or msn, if not then what is the use of visiting the directory? IMO only a community based review system like hedir.com can be considered for traffic or some use, they atleast review your site in public and gives you feedback which helps you improve.

What is your take on this? Do you sumbit to directories for traffic or links?