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TBPR update or just shifting Datacenters?

Noticed some changes this morning


Oliver Henniges

9:52 am on Oct 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As for this morning, I noticed some minor changes in the toolbar.

The <online tool that I use> seems to be under heavy load at present, so I assume something's going on. No remarkable changes in the serps, however.

ping toolbarqueries shows default for me.

For instance, a new product-pages-sitemap, which I designed in early September, has now got pagerank. All pages one graph away from my homepage now have the same pagerank (identical with the homepage!?), whereas a bulk of new pages trying to aim at the long-tail and launched in late July is still indexed with PR0. But indexed at least. It also seems to me that we got more orders from this long tail over the weekend than usual, but this is far below statistical significance. I finally noticed that some new first-level-pages launched by the 19th of October are now in the index, though still with PR0.

It seems to me that calculation of these new TBPR-values is performed somewhat different from what we knew before, insofar as only some (more important) pages are updated, and others not.

Anyone with similar observations?
Sorry, reseller, for occupying your topic.

[edited by: tedster at 5:58 pm (utc) on Oct. 30, 2006]


1:39 pm on Oct 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was just looking at sitemaps at google and it's stating that one of our subsections has higher pagerank than our home page (Oct). So I checked with a few pagerank checkers some more and saw that majority of pages linked from our home page have pr 5 now suddenly (our home page has pr 5). I also checked and no sites link directly to these pages and/or sections so it can't be that either.

I also noticed in stats yesterday that one hour was 500% incerase in traffic and page views ( google analytics ). This isn't a spider or a crawl since we saw the same incrase in AdSense clicks. My best guess is google is dancing again?

Exciting! Could we finally have reached pr 6?!

[edited by: tedster at 4:07 am (utc) on Nov. 2, 2006]


8:03 pm on Oct 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Checked with several pr tools that query multiple servers, our pr upgrades are currently showing on 2/3 of G's servers. I'm also confident this is some G update (like, we have pr 5 on our copyright page, nobody would link to that so I'm thinking pr 6 for homepage is entiery possible?).

Robert Charlton

1:27 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I noticed a change on a client site yesterday. Home page dropped from PR7 to PR6, but next level pages linked directly from the home page are also PR6... so I'm guessing we have a high PR6 on home.

Not something I usually watch, but we just launched individual some page changes and global revisions yesterday... so having outside confirmation of this change makes a bunch of discussion easier.


4:32 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think they're bouncing around a little. I have a six month old site that was PR6 three months ago and went down to 5 last month, then back up to 6, and back down to 5 today. We had a press release that generated a few IBL of PR7 and one 8 so I think it's just finally leveling out.


5:50 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree with egurr, this is a google dance IMO.

Pre-latest PR update, I had a PR6 site with all its subpages PR0s. After the update, the site dropped to PR5 with all its subpages having different PR. At the time of google dance, the site went back to PR6 with all its subpages PR0s again. In the moment of writing, everything reverted to normal.

Looked like a rollback to me at the first glance.


7:54 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not an update IMO - eventually a rollback to the value from back a couple of months ago.
Well, what do I know after all..


9:22 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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can't be a rollback, we've never had higher than pr 4 on subsections.

Just checked and still showing 4 on 1/3 of servers, 5 on rest. Either it's still updating and we're hitting pr 6, or just strong pr 5.

G Sitemaps says highest pr was index page in Sep, subsection Oct, now index again for Nov. Weird.

Paul Roberts UK

9:35 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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gutted. our own company site was showing as pr4 with all new pages pr4 as well yesterday. it's back down to pr3 with pr0 on new pages again this morning :(

*edit* just checked a future pr tool, and some data centers are showing as 3, but the majority showing as pr4. looks like we've got a pr export on our hands.

[edited by: Paul_Roberts_UK at 9:44 am (utc) on Nov. 2, 2006]


10:09 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PR has been updating/stabilizing across datacenters since the last update. Up until today, only 3 more datacenters have yet to list my new PR4.


11:33 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, It looks like the last PR update was incomplete.

I had a site in which only about 1/4 of the internal pages received their normal PR the others all went to PR0. From what I can see now all the internal pages are receiving again their long standing PR.


11:58 am on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see nothing.

Nothing has changed over 9 sites in the past month or so.



3:35 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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repost from other thread with same "theme":

Something is happening for sure. I just registered and subscribed to find info for this very reason.
Totally different serps has been shown today. We lost a lot of freshly added sites within a few hours. Nowhere to be found.

We suspected some kind of roll-back but it doesn't look like it.

I've seen at least 2 very different serps from Europe.
Pages listed in google.co.uk is not listed in mainland Europe, same with .ca. Something is going on. Normally we see a timepattern of our flushed black hat domains, but it's been off for the last few days.


6:18 pm on Nov 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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From what I've seen, this is a roll back of TBPR on a small number of data centers. Most likely the rollback is temporary.


3:13 am on Nov 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have seen significant changes in google sitemaps under their crawl stats for our site. Alot of "page rank not assigned"

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