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History:
- ours is an authority site, ecommerce, thousands of pages, in existence since the mid 90s, lots of #1 rankings, most listings double indented, lots of quality inbound links, lots of original content, lots of content provided by manufacturers
- we inadvertently created some duplicate content issues in Q1 2006, which we discovered and fixed in June 2006
- site lost all good rankings end of Q1 2006
- regained all good rankings August 15
- lost all rankings again October 1
Just curious - is anyone else having this experience? Is this update specific to our site, or is there a major update going on?
For those of you who have regained, can you please share a quick synopsis of your recent history so that we may determine if there are any commonalities in our experience...
With each cycle of loss and regain, we struggled to remain firm to our vision of ignoring SEO, and focus on simply building a good site for visitors. Our focus has been, and continues to be: content, content and content. We have never allowed ourselves to get caught up with isues related to such tings as H1 tags, ALT tags, etc., we have never even actively sought inbound links. We have always just let it all happen naturally, and just - build - the - site.
It amazed me it disappeared, and even though it's a competitor, I'm very glad it's back now, because I couldn't understand how a site like this could disappear.
tflight - did you do anything between each stage to affect your recovery, or were your sites always static? Was your recoery due in part to something you did, or was it always just a change at google?
Hard to say. Since I've had a drop, recovery, another drop, and another recovery I have a really hard time believing it was any on-site factor. I add new content to the site daily, but other than that I have not made any significant changes to the site structure that I could attribute to the drops or recovery.
In other words...... if the site drops again in a couple of weeks I don't feel I have any specific information that would help me recover again.
We have similar sites, and the opposite experience: today, we have once again lost most of our rankings.
History:
- our sites have thousands of pages, most are several years old, lots of quality inbound links, lots of quality content
- most sites lost all good rankings on the June 27 update
- we had built up some duplicate content between the sites (not within them) over the years, but fixed this in August and September
- regained all good rankings October 1
- seem to have lost them again today.
I was hoping for a recovery this month, but it looks like im still down.
It makes no sense, when I search for my own sites name, I rank #7, and sites that mention my site rank above me.
Another site with the same name now ranks #1, this site only has two pages index in google, the root with www and without. (Duplicate content), while my site has 500 unique pages.
My site has over 5,000 back links and a page rank of 5, this other site has zero back links and a page rank of 0 (has been running a while now)
Very messed up, I have done everything I can think of in hope of recovery but still nothing.
On keywords we follow rather odd results actually - not a reversal as we were unaffected by the earlier updates. Traffic down yesterday compared with previous Friday.
Still investigating this one.
$200 days on Adsense were good while they lasted.. will be back down to $20 again for another month I guess..
I've got a pretty major site which was hit Sept. 15th and this push hasn't improved things one bit. Fortunately I've got a few other sites to rely on.
I'm surprised how few comments there have been about the most recent data pushes... I wonder if fewer webmasters are affected or if we are just getting tired of discussing it?
I'm surprised how few comments there have been about the most recent data pushes... I wonder if fewer webmasters are affected or if we are just getting tired of discussing it?
Since this one came on a Friday evening in the USA it could be that many people haven't discovered it yet due to the weekend.
This is a domain that has always been close to the edge for on page keyword stuffing and keyword-in-backlinks duplication. If #2 is the worst fall that happens, I'll take it. Sometimes in the more distant past much more drastic problems have come down the line for this domain.
However, this is the first time in over a year that these rankings have faltered, so this recent data push is not a "reversal" of anything as far as I can see.
And anyway, it all could be Google tweaking its stuff - but better to follow very tight rules so I know I have done whatever is needed.
(My sites anyway never target the #1 position. It's always 2-4 word phrases, and I am usually happy being somewhere in the top 10 for a very large number of combos.)
It works excellent!
On June 27th, I checked all my usual top positions from my main site with all the sub domains, and they had been all gone.
I recovered full on September 30th.
Now I lost 50% traffic from Google on my main sites, but I do not know where.
I have still all my top positions. So I do not know where I lost all the Google traffic.
After checking my usual top position searches, I checked my referer log file from October 14th and checke the first 10 searches of the day.
All positions still in the same range.
I mean I can not know where I had been on October 14th within 1 to 10. The referer can only show, that I was in the first 10 and when I check now, I am also in the first 10.
So since I have the same search positions, it's complete mysterious where the traffic is lost.
I think we are seeing a reversal of pr that was calced this summer back to a lower pr rank which is pushing down 3 term plus serps which would explain why our top tier serps are still in place.
Ahh the annual christmas update right on time:)
which would explain why our top tier serps are still in place.
Take Your referer log file from the time before the update and take some random entries.
I did this by checking the first 10 referer log entries from october 14th
There are no known top posistion searches, but also here, all the top positions are still there.
So when I check over a wide range of search terms, no top positions lost, only 40% Google traffic.