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... I'm pretty pissed at the emails saying "your site has no penalty" when obviously we ...
hey joeduck, how/whom do you email/contact to know if u have been penalized?
[google.com...]
Click webmaster.
Replies seem to vary greatly in detail, though I'm no longer convinced this system even gives you valid information becuase I think the support staff is not privy to the filters and penalties that are invoked at higher levels. This leads to emails stating "no penalty" for the thousands of sites that are now penalized by heavy duplicate and other filters.
Just checked one result where I have always been first. Now, I am 11th for the same keywords but for a different page.
There are loads of casino/make money quick sites linking in to me since about 3 months. They don't seem to have had an effect.
I disappeared in May, wrote to Google twice and came back about June 20th.
Traffic is good but not as good as it was previously.
Every other update I survived and in fact got better. Lately, it's just been waiting to see when I next get nailed for nothing.
Good luck to all!
>>Something is in the air. What is pretty unclear...<<
Yes. Much Air Pollution.. thats what I see (:(
While testing my standard keyphrases, I see this site as #2 on the serps:
<TITLE>Free Widget1, Free widget2, Free Widget3, Free Widget4, Widget5, Free Widget6, Bulk Widget7, Opt In Widget8 Services, Widget9 Lists, Widget10, Free Widget11, Widget12 Free, Widget13, Widget14, Free Widget15 by www.site.com</TITLE>
And within <head></head> you see this comment:
<!-- Free Widget1, Free widget2, Free Widget3, Free Widget4, Widget5, Free Widget6, Bulk Widget7, Opt In Widget8 Services, Widget9 Lists, Widget10, Free Widget11, Widget12 Free, Widget13, Widget14, Free Widget15 by www.site.com -->
And more...and more of the same garbage.
Nobody talks anymore about the serps quality. Nobody cares. Most important is having a "LARGE INDEX" based on inflated number of pages, URL only, 404´s, dead links and pages which only exist in the mind of Mr. Eric Schmidt!
If the problem is left for a little while then G cant seem to fix it.
Yes, if you email Google and have a canonical url problem they say the site has not got a penalty.
Perhaps the engineers dont understand what the situation is - therefore lack of comments?
Google you indexed a site of mine this week (thursday) - took almost every single page - missed out the homepage though - lol good work yet again?
Listen Google - I will say this only another 92 times. The canonical url for my site is the homepage with the www - I have done the 301 - this is the page with the most backlinks - it is the page that should rank for the company name search. Etc."
When searching for "online blue widgets"
my site is OUT of top-100, while with &filter=0
it is IN top-10
Question: will I stop being filtered if my postion rises? (for ex from TOP-10 to TOP-5)
Seems like catch 22 to me.
If what you mean is.. that top sites are not being filtered I can say no to that, as I have seen two long time Google topping sites, non afilliates, totally original content, gone or limping badly after application of this (asumed) duplicate filter.
it also appears that whole domains are filtered
I've got 2 sites:
- mysite.com (php, 3 years old, continuously updated)
- mysite.co.uk (html, 4.5 years old, never updated)
Yesterday Google sent 1,595 people to the not-updated-for-4-years site and 677 people to the updated-daily site. Hardly seems worth 3 years work, yes/no?
I note that when you search for My site Name it was showing main site, an article index and then a sub domain that was not very busy.
Now shows the same but a more popular sub domain in 3rd place and the less popular sub domain is way down on page 2 of the results...so I guess still movement across the board....for us.
Filter zero results are very different as well.
Do you really believe that ALL changes we have been witnessing since 22nd Sept 2005 are due to [FILTERS] deployment? and how many kind of filters have we seen since that date?
It is not because I´m "trying to figure out why did you drop that glass" (Copyright steveb 2005, All rights reserved) ;-) , but it will help alot to find out what the affected sites should change after this update/no update is over in order to recover (or before filing the next reinclusion request).
And suppose for "political" reasons, the folks at Google wouldn´t admit that they have been testing algo changes (possibly in addition to filters), shouldn´t we ourselves decide on whether its an update or just filters?
it will help alot to find out what the affected sites should change after this update/no update is over in order to recover (or before filing the next reinclusion request).
If your sites adhere to the Google Webmaster Guidelines and you don't have any obvious technical problems (such as non-www URLs not being redirected to www versions or vice versa), then why change anything at all? Wouldn't it make more sense to file a reinclusion request and let Google sort out its problems?
Making changes for the sake of change (a common knee-jerk reaction to loss of rankings) is a bad idea for three reasons, IMHO:
1) It's likely to be a waste of time;
2) It may compound the problem;
3) It introduces new variables that make it harder for SEs to troubleshoot their own problems.
Making changes for the sake of change (a common knee-jerk reaction to loss of rankings) is a bad idea for three reasons, IMHO:
1) It's likely to be a waste of time;
2) It may compound the problem;
3) It introduces new variables that make it harder for SEs to troubleshoot their own problems"
europeforvisitors seems to admit that google has a problem.or i am wrong?
I know I will not be changing anything on our site as a result of the recent traffic drop, unless Google issue some new guideline or such. Bar concentrating a bit more on repeat visitors...
No point trying to catch bubbles, especially when a lot of it is hearsay. Plus you might change a bunch of things then they fix whatever they had wrong regards your site, but to no benefit since you now have some other thing flagged or whatever.
I am just hopeful things will resolve, whether that takes a week or 6 months remains to be seen.
What I don't like is lack of transparency, though I understand that is open to abuse.
The answer should be obvious if you understand the problem. Adhering to the guidelines and doing things right yourself is not the issue here. The problem is Google has gone a step further and is creating problems.
Google keeps data on deleted pages for at least two years. This data can reassert itself at any time and reappear as a supplemental result. It seems clear especially if the content on the two year old page is now on a different page, you could have a problem, even though you did everything right and sensible in deleting the page two years ago.
People should be working on getting rid of their Supplemental listings. Using the remove URL tool doesn't work. Redirecting a supplemental page doesn't work. Deleting a page and linking to the 404 location doesn't work. Personally I'm trying something else, which I am thinking has a good chance to work.
The point is simple: webmasters have to do things to make it less likely that Google will do something blunderingly stupid.
I was about to ask, what is the best guess as to when Google might get around to fix these problems?
Seems like the fix is not at all trivial or they would have done something about it by now.
So are they really on a downward slope to oblivion? things don't usually work like that.. so when, how long might it take for them to regroup, fix the filter (or whatever) and get things moving again?
if (recent)past experience is anything to go by it could be one or two months ..... athough I really hope not!
europeforvisitors seems to admit that google has a problem.or i am wrong?
No search engine is perfect, and any change to algorithms or filters is likely to have at least some undesirable side effects. Furthermore, algorithms and filters must evolve--with or without side effects--simply to cope with the exponential growth of junk pages that have no value to anyone but their owners.
Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting that "problems at Google" are responsible for every penalty or loss of rankings. In some cases, Google obviously wants to purge types of content that may have squeaked through in the past, and for good reasons.
Here are few DCs moving in the right direction ;-)
64.233.161.99
216.239.37.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.39.99
216.239.39.104
It will be very nice to wake up tomorrow morning and see the results of those 5 Dcs have propagated to the rest of the DCs. Who knows!
Good night....
my domain name was registered about 8-9 years ago, and it's a very good one. No dashes or anything.
64.233.161.99
216.239.37.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.39.99
216.239.39.104<<
Hmmm... they ain't doing a thing for my sites.
