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301 and Link Strategy

301 and Link Strategy

         

kumardevan

10:13 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have a site, example.com there are different types of services are there. I want to create back links for one of my inner page.

Like http://www.example.com/example-services.html

In Link submission most of the websites accepts only top level pages. So I am planning to create sub domain for that particular webpage and going to do 301 redirect for that sub domain in-to my inner page.

Example: [es.example.com...] --->>http://www.example.com/example-services.html.

Is this strategy will work to get backlinks for my inner page?

tedster

6:02 pm on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Creating many subdomains is probably an unwise thing -- having many subdomains is one of the spam techniques that Google is currently trying to defend against and you don't want to look like a spammer to them.

twebdonny

7:17 pm on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



<<<<you don't want to look like a spammer to them<<<<

amen on that one brother

kumardevan

7:19 am on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

How come it will be spamming by just creating 3 to 4 subdomains.

I think yahoo is having lot of subdomains....

I am not going to create duplicate pages for that subdomains...

I am going to use that subdomain only for the Link submission purpose alone.

My question is, if i did 301 redirect for that subdomain, then back links for that subdomain will be transfered to the redirected webpage?

Thaparian

7:21 am on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Big sites can do anything they want.

Only the small sites have to worry for penalties by google.

tedster

4:38 pm on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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How come it will be spamming by just creating 3 to 4 subdomains.

Well, I didn't say you WERE spamming, only that it might look like spamming to an algorithm some day, and possibly even now.Remember that Google's ranking is 99%+ automated through algorithms. If your ofootprint matches the algorithm's description of a spammer footprint -- bam!

But I also was not clear that you were only looking to have 3 or 4 subdomains. Still, and after all, why are you trying to create these urls for links? It is to improve your rankings, right? It's not a truly natural citation for your site that is freely given by another site. Rather it is a kind of technical manipulation.

A subdomain with only one page is EXACTLY the loophole that I've seen spammers exploiting recently - it's part of their "footprint". Granted, those spammers do this with thousands of subdomains, and not just 3 or 4. Still, this is not a reason to create a subdomain, in my opinion, and especially not at a time when subdomain spam is right in the crosshairs.

A healthy subdomain has a lot of content -- it is a domain on its own, with its own business purpose and all the content, resources and regular updating that a principle domain has.

My question is, if i did 301 redirect for that subdomain, then back links for that subdomain will be transfered to the redirected webpage?

Usually and eventually, in the normal case. But the normal case would also involve a subdomain that USED TO exist with its own content -- and the urls for that content have now been changed. Google does watch history for urls -- and they will know that this subdomain of yours never existed before and indeed does not "exist" now.

My advice is still not to get links this way. It looks manipulative, and I can make a pretty good case that it IS manipulative. It matches a spammer footprint in a few different areas and it's not worth risking a domain's health for a few backlinks.

hvacdirect

5:09 pm on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Creating many subdomains is probably an unwise thing -- having many subdomains is one of the spam techniques that Google is currently trying to defend against and you don't want to look like a spammer to them"

about dot com
craigslist

to name a couple are built on subdomains, and google has enough time to index millions upon millions of their pages.

tedster

5:35 pm on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Very true. Using subdomains is not the problem in itself.

But the subdomains that about.com and craigslist use (good exampes of what I called "healthy" subdomains) do not 301 redirect -- and spammers have only one page on each subdomain, not millions of pages. There's a very precise footprint here, and the OP is proposing something very close to it, although at a very low volume.

g1smd

6:24 pm on Aug 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In general you can redirect as many domains as you like to one canonical URL; but I think that certain patterns of linking and redirecting are already raising a flag... they say "look at this, we have a scheme".

Google doesn't like "schemes".