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High PR authority entirely supplemental

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followgreg

1:30 am on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Guys,

We have a high PR site that is totally gone supplemental. The site is 6 years old and has 100% natural popularity, the products and services are quite unique and this is an authority in its industry by far.

The homepage is gone, not even supp. and no trick has been made whatsoever, it's been like this for 3 months now I think.

Want to have some expert thoughts on this one?

fishfinger

8:06 am on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not an expert, but here's two things to try.

You say it's unique - have you checked to see if you are being scraped for content?

Try searching in Google for sentences of around 20 words taken from lower down pages in " ".

If you are the only site with that content in then your page will be the only result.

Have you checked for any canonical issues? (i.e. is your domain without the www indexed by Google? or /index.htm or php?

Do a site:domain.extn search (without the www) to see exactly what pages are indexed. If it's a big site go to the end of the Google results and see if there's a link to click the 'do this search again with the omitted results included' - any dupes you have will not show up the first time.

rytis

8:33 am on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In regards to toolbar PR and issues with Google index / ranking, TBPR is months old (updated abt 4 times/yr) while realtime PR is known only to G.

RichTC

9:25 am on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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greg,

You have a few answers already but the following are top of the agenda:-

1. Visit a certain well known website to see if any of your site is coppied - search on "Copy Scape" in google. Then put in all your main pages to see if anyone is up to anything that is causing you harm.

2. Look at your pages to make sure they are different, ie different titles, descriptions, and most of all reduce any similar content. I noticed recently that on one of our sites that lost pages to the supplemental index that the pages all had large footers with lots of links in them that were the same - google i believe has reduced the duplicate content percentage levels and if it thinks some of the page is found elswhere will drop them.

3. Check on your url strings - again i notice that if you have /wigets?/1234 then /widgets/4567 etc etc on the next page and so on it can supplement whole blocks of pages because its thinks they are auto generated, especially if you have alot of the same footer links as in 2 above.

4. As also pointed out by fishfinger - Canonicals - Check it out, caused us no end of problems on a number of sites.

Good luck - something else for you to contend with, but you didnt want webmastering to be easy did you!

[edited by: RichTC at 9:26 am (utc) on Aug. 9, 2006]

sandpetra

12:01 pm on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No expert but...

I noticed pages going supplemental for keyword terms when anchor text links where changed throughout a site recently.

fishfinger

12:49 pm on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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search on "Copy Scape" in google. Then put in all your main pages to see if anyone is up to anything that is causing you harm.

This is quicker than using Google but not infallible. Copyscape is well-known and can be blocked by spammers.

WiseWebDude

1:03 pm on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I simply cannot see how someone can copy your site like that and get away with getting on top of you for results. Google is not stupid (if that was the case then they could be considered stupid). If you have had an authority site for 6 years, then Google would find another site with your exact words and Google would use their results instead of yours... I would say the Googlebot was retarded then. I do not agree that this could happen. But, then, who am I, I have been wrong...rare, but true. HEHE.

idolw

1:09 pm on Aug 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I noticed pages going supplemental for keyword terms when anchor text links where changed throughout a site recently.

OUCH! That $uck$!

What about adding lots of new content pages at the same time?