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Ok, here are the related factors to what I am referring to as the "new google 2 kw filter", until somebody can come up with another name.
- 2 kw term
- used to rank very high, now vanished
- with " "'s returns to high rank
- does not affect rankings for other terms on same site
- home page involved
- only happens on google, still rank high on Y/MSN
- appears on only specific but changing data centers
- long standing site
-?
..... what else would you add to the list, please keep it simple and short
The DCs mentioned that are supposedly awful are showing great result sin my area.
Again not crowing, just pointing out there must be a reason for it as opposed to being arbitrary or a glitch
I have my own pages showing up in place of my previous top ranked pages and they have nothing to do with the search phrase.
I'm seeing a few of my missing pages being replaced by a related page of mine, but the replacement page is one level up.
One other thing I'm seeing with my missing pages is that the serps are reporting much higher page counts, for example 5,000,000 vs 50,000,000.
There is one exception to the page count thing though, in one instance the count has dropped from 224,000,000 to 110,000,000 or so, albeit the 224 number was a fairly recent surge and completely nuts.
I'm now looking at 33 of 117 terms dropping from spots 1 - 3 to not being in the top 1,000.
Strangely traffic is actually up in this section of my site. But instead of getting many referals from each of the missing term I'm getting 1 or 2 referals from each of many, many more terms.
Anyone else getting your 2 word phrases back? The way things have gone this week, two hours from now I may be stuck back in "quote" glitch purgatory, but for now things are good.
The good thing about this problem has been my traffic for 3 word+ keyword phrases has more than picked up the slack, so hopefully now I can have the best of both worlds.
Personally...I hope this doesn't stick....
Randle...may I ask what time zone you are in?
This "thing" ran for several hours yesterday morning PST and I am hoping this is the case today as well....
wow I'm back..that was a nervouse few days.
The lesson is we all must have more than one money making site and our sites should not rely 90% on Google. Because with one algo tweak they could put a lot of our businesses under.
I'm still MIA on mine, reappears with quotes and allinanchor. Checked McDar and I'm there on all but 3 or 4 datacenters. Can't figure this out... Don't know which dc is feeding my g but my site is not on it..
I had the same problem until this morning when my google data center finally switched over. It's strange that the data center that feeds my google was the last to switch for me. And it was two days later.
Have ranked on 1st page for last 1.5 years for many terms (my domain is 10 years old), and my KEY 2-word keyword phrase exists in about 15-20 of the MCDAR servers (in position # 10, where I was always around position # 6), and is totally MIA, on all other servers.
I really hate looking at this stuff when Google goes through their updates, but when traffic becomes virtually non-existent, it warrants looking into it.
I've been through this before, and it always seems to rebound, especially after I'm ready to capitulate. I hope this is the case this time, or I'm really screwed.
At first I dropped to around page four in SERPs for key phrases and then to page six. I briefly recovered to page three and then proceeded to drop even further than before. If I do a site search for my domain all of my newer low PR pages show up first and my older high PR pages are buried around #800. Also older pages are showing titles and descriptions that are in some cases years old. In almost eleven years of running my website this is the worst week I have ever had and the worst drop in SERPs I have ever seen for any search engine.
This is a pure content site with thousands of pages and tens of thousands of natural back links (according to sources like Yahoo, or searching for specific anchor text in Google).
I'm not sure this is relevant, but I'll put it out here anyhow.
I've lost a few #1 spots (not in the top 1,000 at the moment) that include a 2 word term. Trying the quotes brings my pages right back.But I noticed that a single quote at either end of the term brought my pages back also. "two words or two words"
I have just tried two words and three words with quotes and it works. I can see my lost homepage back on top using keywords that have recently stopped working for me..
Yes, it is weird how sites are coming back from July 27th at diffrent time spans.
This is a pattern I have seen just before things had returned to normal over the past three months.
Each time my homepage would vanish for a while, then results would become eratic as you described a few days before everything had reverted back to normal. Everything would be ok for a couple of weeks and the process would repeat itself. At the moment my homepage is missing again and my k.word results have changed.
[edited by: Scurramunga at 4:18 am (utc) on Aug. 5, 2006]
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just noticed other pages and keyword positions that were holding well have now dropped out.
[edited by: Scurramunga at 8:12 am (utc) on Aug. 5, 2006]
I just did a site: search for my site that was hit hard on June 27th, first from Firefox, using the default Google/Firefox homepage search bar, then did the same search at google.com in IE - - and got different results!
Are the SERP API determined by browser type?
FF results show my home page as #1, with a few (remaining) supplemental results (5 years old - dead pages) about #8 and #9. IE shows my supplemental pages as #1 and #2?
I have 301 redirected all my old "supplemental" pages to new relevent pages. I found out what BigG was serving as supplemental with the site: search, then 301 them all with my .htaccess file. I left out two to see if this would work - it did. Within 1 day ALL my 301'd supplemental pages were removed when doing the site: search.
Will advise if anything changes August 27th. :)
