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New Data Refresh - 27 July 2006

     
3:05 am on Jul 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think another Google refresh happened?
2:20 am on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yep, I think it did happen just on 27th July....a month after big June 27th one... My sites get back and that's the only thing i care about now!
2:23 am on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Our sites are all back..
1:54 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, Google was crawling a new site of mine for the last 10 days without actually including the pages in its index. As of this morning, I see that some +150 pages are indexed.
2:51 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I sure wish we would see something positive. Still nothing though. Home page still MIA.
3:40 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm noticing something silly with this new refresh on one of my lesser sites.

1. On 7/27 it disappeared for all its major keywords, but unlike before, where "" bypasses the filter, it is still AWOL.
2. It was usually in the 10-15 range allinanchor:KW, now it isn't in the top 1000 that I can see.
3. The site: is broken. For a small site, even it is experiencing problems, with the index page no longer being the top result returned. Instead it is a cached, supplemental 404 (huh?) domain.com/images/home_image.swf -- of course, we don't use .swf files and have 404 processing setup correctly in IIS.

A question for those of you that were able to fix some of the supplemental issues: have you found it more beneficial to create a G account and submit the site to sitemaps as a method of asking a question / requesting reinclusion, or have you found it easier to create a G account and request removal of the page from the index?

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3:47 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you don't have a problem with being MIA for 6 months the url remaval tool works great. Assuming the site is clean it will reappear perfectly indexed in 6 months.
8:14 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I would never, ever submit a reinclusion request to Google.
I think by doing that, that you are telling Google that you had a banned or penalized page or site and be prepared to battle their spam bots in overdrive?

I have no clue on this as I have never had a reason to request for reinclusion but again would never do it unless I knew the exact problem.

Side note: I would never submit a site to any search engine either.
Spiders prefer to find your site as it proves to them that they are "trying" to do their job. Many ancient topics on this.

10:13 pm on July 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had two key search arguements, one wasn't reaching the top 100, the other coming in at number 4.

Since 27 July they have swapped.

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I've successfully done a recinclusion request in the past; it just took too long because the issue itself was not specific to my site and needed to be fixed (302 stuff). If there's a problem and you think you know what it is, it really don't hurt to file the request; yes, calling it a reinclusion request makes it sound as though you are admitting to something, but if you really aren't, there isn't any harm. I want to say my average time to solution on that is 6-8 weeks.

Nuking a page via the removal tool never took 6 months for me; most of the time, I did it in conjunction with something else, but I think my past average was somewhere around 3-4 weeks.

Per the sitemaps deal; I mostly followed DaveN's take on it for a while and know of several threads here regarding the faulty site: command and how it is related to some AWOL SERPs, but haven't done it yet.

Thus, it is still just a question of which is faster; some people did this just after the June 27th datapush and recently popped back in (though it may have been a coincidence). Anyone else have success with the sitemaps route?

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all keywords that were held for the past few months to a year have dropped from number 1 to 20 for example, think this is temporary or something more concrete. We're a legitimate site without any seo tricks, just naturals links coming in, with only a couple outgoing links. The funny thing is our alexa ranking went up, but actually dived in the google results.