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Google Mobile Algo - April 2015 Roll Out

         

keyplyr

10:49 am on Apr 21, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Different DataCenters probably, but I'm seeing new SERP for everything I search for... that I'm familiar enough with to notice a change. So Cal

kewlchat

6:19 pm on Apr 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Traffic has tripled and still climbing on mobile and desktop thanks Jesus for answering my prayers.
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ChanandlerBong

8:03 pm on Apr 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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We've definitely seen an uptick in mobile. It wasn't statistically important at first, but now I can say we're up about 5%. Been fully responsive for 10 months. Nothing earth shattering but if the roll out is continuing, we expect that to improve further. Someone in the SERPS is losing that traffic to us. I'm just glad I'm on the right side of the equation.

guggi2000

8:19 pm on Apr 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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@ChanandlerBong What was the change for you on desktop this week?

ChanandlerBong

8:46 pm on Apr 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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pretty flat, up 1%, something like that.

seoskunk

11:27 pm on Apr 28, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Don't believe the hype - what a load of fuss about nothing. As usual Google talks a good game but fails to deliver.

Dymero

1:31 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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No change on one of the sites I monitor, though we've already been mobile-friendly for some time, and mobile has completely surpassed desktop+tablet organic traffic combined within the last year.

The other site I monitor I'm a little surprised on. I changed it to mobile-friendly more recently, but given how many times I've been sure I've spotted people on their phone (this niche is B&M), I would have expected more mobile even before this.

Maybe that'll change as this rolls out.

ken_b

5:19 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Found a message in my AdSense control panel tonite saying my site's "mobile friendliness" was now a G Search ranking factor.

Seems like an odd place for a message like that.

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rainborick

6:01 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I suspect that Google was disappointed at the response to their push on mobile friendliness. A few days ago, Google reported an increase of only ~4% increase in the number of mobile friendly sites since they announced the impending change. When you hang around the various search-related forums, blogs and websites, it's easy to lose sight of just how much of the web is totally oblivious to it all. In any case, I'm sure Google expected a much more significant result so they're continuing to push out the message any way they can - such as in the AdSense message.

breeks

6:40 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Google Mobile Algo = April Fools Joke on publishers

keyplyr

7:39 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Like any update - those that did well, love it. Those that didn't do well, call it a joke. Nothing new about that.

FranticFish

7:57 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Maybe there's going to be more of a delayed effect. I wonder if it's the indirect effect of being not labelled as mobile-friendly that Google considers significant.

Over time, unlabelled websites that are not popular for other reasons (e.g. brand recognition) are going to be clicked less.

I realise that the effect of clicks on rankings is a highly contentious topic, but to me it makes sense that a result in a SERP that is clicked more should receive increased exposure over another that is clicked less.

7_Driver

8:46 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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[UK] If it's rolled out - then it looks like a very small ranking factor indeed.

I have a sites that are mobile friendly and sites that aren't - and I can't detect any traffic changes whatsoever on a Google + Mobile segment.

I took a small sample of 10 terms which had one or more non-mobile-friendly sites ranking above our mobile friendly site on 20th.

Of those, we're the same rank on 4, down on 4 and up on 2.

Ok - that sample is very small, but it tends to indicate that so far, the ranking signal is so small it's lost in the general noise of fluctuating rankings.

On the positive side - it's given us the kick we needed to move a design refresh up the To-Do list, so it's not all bad.

chrisv1963

9:45 am on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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but to me it makes sense that a result in a SERP that is clicked more should receive increased exposure over another that is clicked less.


This doesn't make sense.
A result that's is clicked and followed by good user behavior (no use of back button, number of page views, return visits to the site, ... whatever other metrics that give data about user behavior) should receive increased exposure. A result that is clicked and followed by the user hitting the back button and clicking an other result in the serps should get less exposure.

enchant

12:48 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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To you people who ARE seeing a change in the rankings. When you do a search, are you seeing the "mobile friendly" tag next to the results?

Nutterum

1:47 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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@enchant 2/10 times - did over 50 searches with vastly different keywords and verticals just to be sure I will not get an artifact of search.

piatkow

3:08 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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To you people who ARE seeing a change in the rankings. When you do a search, are you seeing the "mobile friendly" tag next to the results?

I haven't done any tests since the weekend but so far I haven't. I have seen suggestions that they may not display it on the smallest phone screens which would include mine.

breeks

3:30 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Like any update - those that did well, love it. Those that didn't do well, call it a joke. Nothing new about that.


The joke is nothing has changed.

My sites have seen zero change. I have responsive sites and old school html sites using tables and ZERO change for any of them.

Was expecting a boost for the responsive sites and getting dinged for non mobile friendly sites.

After one week nothing has happened .

The biggest benefit from this update are web design companies who were able to cash in on rush to mobile friendly.

EditorialGuy

4:24 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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In Webmaster Tools, our average ranking position for mobile is noticeably higher than for desktop and tablet, and the graph shows that was true even before the April 21 update. In fact, our average mobile ranking is almost unchanged since late January (the beginning of the reporting period). This makes me wonder if:

- Mobile-friendliness was a ranking signal even before the update, or...

- The update still has a long way to go before being complete.

Of course, there's no guarantee that the WMT information is accurate, but I have no reason to assume that it isn't.

vphoner

10:22 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Non Mobile Friendly Site after 1 week, mobile is down about 16-17%, and very surprisingly tablets down 11%. I thought tablets were not included in mobile algorithm. These statistics are coming from log files, not analytics. Overall mobile phone traffic has dropped from 29% to 25% of total traffic in a week. Earnings have not changed much, which is good.

Kratos

10:22 pm on Apr 29, 2015 (gmt 0)

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@EditorialGuy I've said this before, Google was ALREADY using mobile friendliness as a ranking signal prior to the 21st April, only that it was a very minor one back then. On the 21st it's when they've started to give more weight to that signal and by the looks of it it isn't that strong still. At any given time Google can jack up the importance they place on mobile friendliness and not have to tell us (that's when you will see the true Mobilegeddon or whatever stupid name these pseudo SEOs have called it).

Google has done its job. They've warned us, now it's up to them how much they want to consider mobile friendliness as a ranking signal (and my guess is, that it's importance will continue to increase for the next 6 months, hence why we haven't seen any devastating SERP results... YET).

Ralph_Slate

12:31 am on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Here's the problem I faced: somewhere between 50% and 70% of my traffic is showing as mobile in Google Analytics. Those are people using my non-mobile-friendly site, and they don't seem to mind it too much.

I derive my revenue from advertising. Each of my pages has 2 ads on it - a Leaderboard and either a Skyscraper or a 300x250 box.

When I contacted each of my ad companies, they weren't that plugged into mobile. They provided me with a 320x50 banner size to replace the Leaderboard, but they don't seem to have anything to replace the other banner sizes, and they didn't seem too keen on me using, for example, a 300x250 box below-the-fold (and just about everything is below-the-fold in mobile).

They couldn't even tell me the difference in CPM or fill rate for the 320x50 banner versus a traditional Leaderboard.

So I was faced with cutting my own throat by going mobile and reducing the number of ads per page by 50% and potentially reducing the effective CPM of each page as well. I estimate maybe a 75% drop in revenue per page. Or I could gamble to see what Google's algorithm change would bring.

Couple that with this time of the year being fairly busy - it made more sense for me to wait until July to start to switch things over.

So far, I'm not seeing a decrease in visitors, although it is hard to know for sure because of unpredictable seasonal swings in my traffic.

EditorialGuy

12:41 am on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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(and my guess is, that it's importance will continue to increase for the next 6 months, hence why we haven't seen any devastating SERP results... YET).

Devastating for some, but a windfall for others.

Change doesn't have to be bad. Sometimes it's an opportunity.

keyplyr

1:49 am on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Change doesn't have to be bad. Sometimes it's an opportunity.

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chrisv1963

5:47 am on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Overall mobile phone traffic has dropped from 29% to 25% of total traffic in a week. Earnings have not changed much, which is good.


I'm seeing something similar on one of my major sites. Mobile traffic dropped by about 25%, but earnings didn't drop. This indicates that a lot of mobile traffic is worthless were earnings are concerned. Maybe I should stop investing time and money in mobile friendliness.

particleman

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I've been watching this closely since the launch. The best I can figure is this still hasn't rolled out fully. I have access to analytics for quite a few sites across many topics and generally there is very little change from mobile friendly or non mobile friendly sites at this point in what I'm seeing. If it has rolled out fully then this was definitely over hyped by google.

guggi2000

4:31 pm on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Didn't they say it was bigger than Panda and Penguin?

Johan007

4:39 pm on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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I too can confirm mobile traffic gets very little ad revenue on my content site. Love to know how this can be improved as I am already using an MPU... responsive AdSense too!

teaandbiscuits

4:53 pm on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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My main site went from an average 5-7% mobile traffic to 36% today, A big jump,only one day sample,but still significant.

nomis5

8:52 pm on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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The question has to be asked again, why would G want us to become mobile friendly? In the broad sweep it would seem that if we all convert to mobile friendly it would benefit other search engines just as much as G.

So exactly what is their motivation?

My take on this is that they have identified a large threat to THEIR income if WE don' become mobile friendly. What is that threat? Facebook, twitter, apps etc?

My money is on apps.

EditorialGuy

9:29 pm on Apr 30, 2015 (gmt 0)

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The question has to be asked again, why would G want us to become mobile friendly?

Because a search engine needs to produce worthwhile results for users.

Why wouldn't Google want to serve up mobile-friendly results in mobile search, now that so many of its users have smartphones?
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