New PR and Backlinks Update - July 13

Something's not right. DMOZ seems to have lost its PR on all but its (PR9) front page.

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Just check my backlinks on google and it is showing an update. My linksw have jumped

HHEAdmin
I read your post about dmoz and I too just saw the homepage have pagerank, but then I decided to look up a couple things on dmoz while I was there and pagerank started to show back up on the dmoz pages.

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I can finally see a PageRank and back links up date right now on all dc's!

Well, that could make sense on the DMOZ aspect. They really have ALL outbound links, etc. So that could make sense with them. I doubt a lot of sites are linking to their "inner" pages, mainly just the main page.

I KNOW I should have a pr of 5 on one of my site's main pages and it has stayed a 4 though. That's why I was thinking maybe they only did the 0 PR pages, but I guess I was wrong since some of you have stated you have seen a change with your older pages. Hm, interesting. Maybe I really only have a 4.9. Wierd thing is, some of my "inner" pages went to a 4 and my home is still showing 4. Theoretically home should show one up. Don't know.

Looks like DMOZ's PR is back the way it was now.

My PR went down one on www.mydomain.com, and went up one on just plain mydomain.com. Go figure.

Can anyone fill me in on page rank these days.

I have a site built in 02 my home page is a pr4 some second level pages are pr2 but a majority are pr0.

Just wondering why sooooo many pages are pr0. Once you hit the third level pages they are all pr0.

any ideas?

cool, just had some key pages get pr 5 and 6 rankings. no change on the home page. still waiting for pr8! wish i had posted a site map earlier on now too because now it's still pr0

-russ

One of my sites (really white hat) that has been up since 1999 just went from PR5 to PR0 today ... No referals from Google .... Still doing well in Yahoo and MSN ... But tanked in Google.

Go figure!

All of my inner pages are finally PR5 or PR6, even my link pages (which is actually chuck full of content, so that makes sense).

However, my front page is still 3. Thus, I still think my rank had been adjusted at some time.

Maybe they'll make a domain pr update soon (if there is such a thing).

Also... I'm not getting notification e'mails that people have made new posts in these threads. Whats up?

I manage 35 sites for my company. I had 4 sites that had a RANK of 4 or 5 all drop to "0". Nothing else much changed. It should be noted that those 4 sites had gone from "0" to 4 or 5 on the April Update....so...it appears that Google simply reversed what the did in April 2006. This is like a woman who acts hot and cold every other day...if I could just find a way to strangle googles neck. lol

I noticed that the same 90 are so supplementals have come back under the site: command. The supplementals are listed first.

PR on my sites seem to have reverted to what they were a couple months ago. The inbound links shown by google have climbed, and SERPs and number of pages indexed has remained steady.

same here, we have a group of the same supplementals that keeps popping back every week or so, they are all pages that have been long gone or some are pages that have been redirected from php to html.

Most all of our 301 redirects seem to have worked when we went from php to html except these few. Keep popping up like a bad penny. All the titles are screwy on them as well.

I would avoid making generalizations without taking into account everyone's exeperience. We know it's not just a homepage update and it's not just an update for sites that were pr 0. Also, in my experience it's not just a rollback to the April changes because I have a site that was pr 5 for a long time and is now showing pr 0 on almost every page. I have a similar experience as someone mentioned as one of my sites that went from pr 0 -> pr 4 for the first time is now showing pr 0.

Also, it's difficult to draw conclusions since pr is exported after a certain delay so you aren't seeing your live pagerank so this old pr value is what effected the serps some time ago.

I think PageRank is still a factor in the serps but it's one of 100s which is nothing recent.

That's my 2 cents.

Most of my PR stayed the same however one of my sites when from a PR 0/10 to a 4/10 I hope it stays. Thanks Google.

Question:

With this PR Update how is everyone's SERP Results and Traffic since the update has anything changed?

I have heard people saying PR is worth something and others say its not does anyone have comments on that?

my homepage PR remains same at 4 but all other pages are 0 now, strange even page that are more then a year old and had PR4 assigned are now 0

I have no problem with those pages losing its PR that were all of a sudden awarded PR4 last update, but older and content rich page, dont understand the way google works.

homepage backlink down from 63 to just 15 whereas yahoo/msn bl remains same at 100+

anyone else seeing a fresh tag date but when you go to google's cache it says a date from a few days to a couple weeks ago?

My older sites including the one that lost a point pr last year before jagger have remained unchanged - my new site which is only 3 months old has jumped up to PR3 - it has no backlinks and is the same PR as my 4 year old site with thousands of inbound links.
<shrug>

2 sites went from PR0 to PR 5. So not complaining.

" anyone else seeing a fresh tag date but when you go to google's cache it says a date from a few days to a couple weeks ago? "

Maybe google is yet to push the correct data through. It looked like there was something going on because of the supplementals I have seen that weren't there yesterday on any datacenter that shown up today. With one datacenter showing completely different junk than what was displayed on all the other datacenters. That one got completely removed and it appears that the other data with the supplementals are now disappearing - they could be backing out or it is being corrected. Backlinks and PR on those datacenters are the same and no changes there.

There is supposed to be a data refresh sometime here soon so maybe they are attempting it now. Of course I may be wrong since I tend to be wrong most of the time.

Fresh date here too but actual cache is early July. Got a pr and backlink update for the better but still have that "June 27th" problem. Site:www.mydmain has got my index back on page 7 of these results (was gone from the 27th so called refresh). Still ranked as always since like 1998 number 1,2 or 3 for 3+ word searches. Still gone on 1 and 2 word searches where I sat at the top for years.

I've been meaning to transfer my domain to a better server and did it yesterday. A whole new hoster. With a drastic drop in Google natural results on the 27th, I thought this would be a perfect time to move to a new server. Hope I didn't open a can of worms while Google is fixing themselves.

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I'm sure we will see some more refreshes (Google trying to fix themselves) real soon ;-)

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[edited by: tedster at 9:04 pm (utc) on July 15, 2006]

Hi Guys,

My sites' home page was with Pr 2 which has remained intact. But all the inner pages have dropped down to Pr 0. Looks like there is some change in the Pr algo.

Thanks.

IMHO what is goin on is that Big Daddy go slowly from stage to stage ,that PR update is like the last one is not a general PR update therefore not a general PR update .I check some certain sites some of them are mine and some not.I know a network that got a huge penalty since last year ,all home pages kept there PR but rest of pages 0 ,site command on that network was fixed a few months back but all sites are not ranking.During this update nothing change with the whole network ie only home pages have the old PR.Secondly ,other sites (not from the previous network)that had lifted there penalty got PR now site wise .Another observation in Google Directory PR has not been updated for ages and probably it will be updated after the last and final stage of Big daddy update.There is a flux in SERPS at the moment but as MC said for some people is obvious (webmasters that lost positions) but for the majority is the same old stuf at the top.Maybe there will be another flux next week or so with new data refresh and that refresh IMHO will include that partial PR update as a factor among others.

Maybe there will be another flux next week or so with new data refresh and that refresh IMHO will include that partial PR update as a factor among others

Sure hope so, but I would trade in 100 TBPR updates for one competent indexing job.

"I would trade in 100 TBPR updates for one competent indexing job. "

Amen to that!

1 site had had PR completely re instated to internal cached pages [ 105,000 or 170,000 approx ] - front page previously held PR6 and appears the same. Backlinks are in right through the site, though many added in the last 4 months do not show up.

2 sites have PR, backlinks to cached pages, but only 5 to 600 pages of those out of around 170,000 also. So perhaps another 6 months to see what's the next step for these!

Looking forward to the next week or so to see how the results change.

[edited by: Whitey at 7:33 am (utc) on July 15, 2006]

Looking forward to the next week or so to see how the results change.

I know I'm not supposed to give too much weight to those green pixels, but I must say that I'm terribly discouraged. My internal pages went from PR2 to PR0 and backlinks were chopped to 25%. I worked very hard this past 8 months and expected at least to go up a notch to PR3 (if not PR4).

sigh....

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After looking at all 60 of my sites, almost 50% have went down 1, 30% have increased 1. 10% went to 0 and about 10 raised more then.

Good luck