Minor Shuffling - Incremental Indexing

Not enough changes to be an update.

[alexdo]

hi to all off google watchers

I see a huge changes in google serps across all the google datacenters in europe and asia but US serps are the same...

A few of my site goes up and a few goes down

Did you see the same changes?

Thanks

Alex

[wattsnew]

Over half my site went URL - only....

Are these URL - only pages ever brought back into the index in future changes, or do you just write them off?

[oldpro]

Duplicate content just may be the culprit. If they have turned filter up full throttle this may explain why I have lost 3 positions. We manufacture a product and it is featured on some of the "big box" online retailers. In turn it is featured on 1000's of affilate sites. Where we have lost position is on the keyword for the product itself (for instance "widgets"). Our brand, for instance ("ACME widgets"), is mentioned frequently in the content on our website, thus may have an impact on product keyword "widgets".

I am wondering if I take out all references to our brand name ("ACME widgets") will this help any with our positioning for "widgets"? Objectively speaking, we should be within the top 5 positions for "widgets" taking into account SEO and that we are the industry leader with the oldest website.

Anybody have any thoughts or advice?

[wattsnew]

sailorjwd,

<<50% url-only now. Duplicate Content!>>

I agree, although a few non-duplicates got hit as well - and a few very similar pages are still fully listed. Many were targeted to singular/plurals or semantically similar KW phrases.

helleborine

<<There is a page for free "twisted" widget plan, free "wonky" widget plan, free "banana" widget plan, etc.>>

Could your pages have the same character - a lot of duplication? Sounds like it.

[sailorjwd]

wattsnew,

I agree.. 80% of my url-only pages can be explained by dup content. 20% are a little strange.

However, Back in Feb I redid a lot of my pages to get rid of the first big dup-content pass. I used the NOINDEX meta tag to exclude google from a bunch of summary pages that re-hashed examples shown on other pages. It almost seems as though G is ignoring the noindex tag when evaluating dup content.

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[kevinpate]

One sure sign it ain't a major update ... this
thread ain't near long enough for a major shakeup
:)

[europeforvisitors]

EFV,
Did you have any increase in url-only pages with this update?

No. I see a handful during a random check of site: listings, but there were a few before yesterday, too.

This update/shuffling/incremental indexing doesn't seem to have affected me much at all, except that site:sitename.com shows 14,000 pages, which is up from 12,900 on May 15 and is about 3.25 times the actual number of pages on my site.

[wattsnew]

sailorjwd,

Oh, perfect...

<<It almost seems as though G is ignoring the noindex tag when evaluating dup content.>>

I just added a whack of pages yesterday (first additions in a year) for a new product using NOINDEX NOFOLLOW.

Guess I'm about to find out....

Have you ever had an URL-only page come back into the index?

[kwngian]

IMHO url only list is a transitional phase to supplemental result, if changes were made during the url only stage, it would still be reflected but once it goes into supplemental results, it would be quite a long time before the changes are seen in the index.

I got several supplemental pages that never get updated. This was because I scrapped a portion of my own page and add in a product image with it and google add those pages into the supplemental result.

My new pages are not being added but it probably because I do not have enough PR to go around. In fact the number of pages I have in google's index is reducing continuously.

[sailorjwd]

"IMHO url only list is a transitional phase "

Mine aren't going supplemental. They are going url-only and then being removed totally.

Re: supplemental coming back to normal.. in feb when this happened (to a much lesser degree). I didn't wait for google to re-evaluate the pages. I rewrote them and renamed them and used url-removal tool to get rid of old supplemental page. New page was in index within 2 days and got PR with the last PR update.

[wattsnew]

sailorjwd,

Thanks for your comment.

I presume you rewrote the Feb. pages w/o the dup. content (as far as possible) and they have held on in the index. Sounds OK.