Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

[illusionist]

My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

[theBear]

Oh a number of people are writing.

What comes of it all though remains to be seen.

Meanwhile I've got other work to do.

[arubicus]

I don't agree with ya walman. Think about that "zero sum game fallacy".

[zafile]

So far, I'm very happy with Allegra.

I've been checking my Web sites via link:mysite.com and many rubbish links are gone.

I hope after Allegra is finished, irresponsible webmasters learn not to create links on their own to clean Web sites like mine.

If you're one of those webmasters, don't waste your time creating rubbish links. Instead, spend your time creating relevant content.

Google rocks!

[walkman]

"I don't agree with ya walman. Think about that "zero sum game fallacy". "

100 people search google for widget. If all sites get the same equal number, it would be 10 each. If my site is banned, the other have the change to get more visitors. Those 100 people are looking for something and in 99% of the cases, hundreds, if not thousands of sites offer similar information.

[Liane]

And here I spent an hour yesterday digging through logs trying to find that rogue bot. Should have known the traffic increase was due to Google updating.

Hehe ... its been a long time hasn't it Brett? Personally, I think its fun to have an "update" thread again. Keeps things lively.

Good luck to all. I'm liking this update myself. Up a little here, down a little there, but holding my own.

I realize some of you are hurting, but wait until the dust settles before doing anything drastic. There always seems to be an aftershock or two after the main shake up. Wait and see for about a week ... then take a good hard look at your site to see what you are doing wrong ... if anything.

I have searched the library for over an hour and tried site search to find a post by (I think) DaveN (I could be wrong) so I apologize to the author if I am crediting the wrong author with one of the best posts I have seen on WebmasterWorld in a very long time. Unfortunately, I was unable to find it.

Perhaps somebody else has flagged it and can post the link here for those who might benefit.

The post was about what to look for if your site suddenly tanks on Google. The advice posted was truly excellent and well worth visiting if having problems on Google.

[danny]

It should be for an information site--or any site--that consists mostly of "evergreen" content (as opposed to news or other time-sensitive material) and adds new pages regularly.

That's what I used to think, until my sites got dumped on. And this time it's even worse than it was from May to November last year.

Some of the results now are just bizarre. In some places it looks like pages with the most incoming links from other sites are doing the worst! (And we're talking 100% natural linking here, I almost never bother asking people for links, and there's certainly no spamming involved.) I think internal link anchors are being anti-weighted where they disagree with external ones, or something like that.

Damned if I know why my navigation links upset Google so much, though - my personal site just has breadcrumbs and my review site just has a standard menu on every page.

[theBear]

Tell ya what zafile you write all that content and put it on your site.

Tell me if no one links to you how are you going to be found ....

The last I knew without a link from someplace the G knows nada about you.

And the last I knew if you failed to obtain more than a few inbounds you were sort of put at the bottom of the heap.

But maybe things have changed and it is all done wireless now.

[edited by: theBear at 10:05 pm (utc) on Feb. 4, 2005]

[ken_b]

Liane; Are you thinking of this thread that Caveman started... (May 2004)

A Dropped Site Checklist [webmasterworld.com]

[valeyard]

twebdonny:

I find that (now snipped) email very worrying. I would have expected G to say something along the lines of "the update is still in progress, please give it a few days before complaining". The fact that they didn't suggests that this farcical update is genuine.

I've spent two years working hard to build solid, hand-written content sites. What's the point?

I'll give it until Monday, then it'll be time to embrace the Dark Side.

[zafile]

Google engineers took too-too long to address the issue of rubbish links created by irresponsible webmasters.

It's OK the engineers spent some time enjoying the IPO. However, it was time for them to go back to work.

Thank the Higher Power for MSN to go live with their own search engine. I'm pretty sure Matt Cutts is enjoying the competition (perhaps sweating a bit too).

Keep cleaning those rubbish links pointing to clean sites from URLs similar to www.keyword1-keyword2-keyword3-keyword4.com/keyword5/keyword3-keyword6-keyword7-keyword8-keyword2.html

Google can do better than that!