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(I am still getting traffic from MSN on 3 and 4 word terms, so referrals have not died entirely).
Thanks in Advance,
Does anyone have any idea what's going on?
It also seems like it's only the pages driving massive ammounts of traffic to the sites that are being removed.
msndude mentioned in the referenced thread that they are testing some new spamfilters. The problem is, there is no spam, and the entire site is all white hat(probably the only site in this industry...lol)
Any feedback or ideas would be highly appreciated
What is a fact is that they have a neural network that's still learning so to speak. Another fact is that they are constantly adding pages to their index. That is what they do, and that is what's in their best interest.
Dropping pages deliberately from the index is just bad business. Even MS wouldn't do that.
As a side note it quite possible for white hat site to suffer OOPs, especially if its a site that relies on input from users e.g. a forum. If one of your keywords is naturally at a fairly high density and then a few users come along and mention it one too many times it can easily trip a filter.
Sorry, but that's like saying the sky isn't blue. They obviously are deliberately dropping pages. It is obvious both because they crawl pages but still remove them from their index, and because of the phenomenon discussed many times here about pages a certain amount of clicks from the main page not ranking at all.
It's absurd to think that there is some sinkhole or something that accidentally requires MSN to accidentally drop 400 pages of a 1000 page site even though they crawl all 1000 pages more than once a week.
They have a clear policy to deliberately churn their database, quite apparently aimed at dropping deep content pages, but it should not be surprising that they sometimes drop key pages that they would not normally intend to.
I mean, isn't it in MSN's best interest to make sure that their "new" search engine, that they have spend billions of dollars developing, delivers the best possible results? To make people prefer their search engine over others by delivering better results?
They don't even have their Ad Systems for MSN Search up yet(Microsoft adCenter Incubation Lab won't have it up before June), so you can't say they are doing this to make companies spend dollars on their paid listings either?
Again, no offense, but think about it - there is, as far as I'm concerned, no logic behind your statement.
Again, it is plainly obvious this is not the case, as they geolocate results for terms that have absolutely no relationship to geolocation, like: neptune
Besides that, how exactly can you explain how virtually no domain over a few pages gets 100% indexed, despite all pages getting crawled, for a year?
C'mon now, you can't just ignore the obvious facts. They are right there for everybody to see. The motivation may not always be clear, but the practices are on display every day, and have been discussed here for months and months.
- You hit the nail right on the head!.
Agree 100%, Currently the search bot can not index large sites, its as simple as that. You only have to use the site command on msn for any large site and you can quickly see that the site has very few pages indexed.
Knock together a two bit site of say 50 pages in a week and bingo a week later the whole site will have been indexed.
msn search = still in beta stage
Give me a reason, a motivation why MSN would do so deliberately, cause right now, I don't see any...
msn search = still in beta stage...now that's something I can fully agree on.
however one needs to explain me how dropping homepages helps?
Because this is what happens...and that's not good, is it?
If they have the same problems Google has - they won't go very far in the competition unfortunately