I am at top of msn CA engine, but not MSN.com

[bassplayer]

I saw an earlier post about this with no solution. Does anyone know why I would not be listed in MSN.com. My site is fist in Google and msn.ca and in Yahoo it only shows up if I type the whole URL. It is a .ca site but hosted in the US - I think - does that make a difference?

[robotsdobetter]

They may think your site is from Ca, but I think they go by the ip of your site to find out where your site is from.

[makemetop]

>I think they go by the ip of your site...

Not if it is a .ca site. That identifies it as Canadian and will give it a boost in MSN Canada and a demotion in MSN.com - similar things will happen with Yahoo.

[bassplayer]

I still can't seem to get my site to show on msn.com, but the search results show some other .ca sites that have links to my club's site and even a .co.uk site which has a link to mine.

I would think the search engines should be smart enough - my website name is our full city name with the word gymnastics attached to it then a .ca(we're in Canada). So when I do a search for our city name and the word gymnastics on msn.com I get 50 other sites that have our club mentioned(some with links)

Any optomization suggestions or am I stuck with only being top on Google and msn.ca?

Thanks

[Champion]

I find the major search engines are dividing their databases into regions. Canadian websites would appear in the .ca database.
However I have seen .com names in the Canadian .ca database as well which had canadian content.

Its hard to say what they go by, however I do know they use different databases or different filters for msn.co.uk, msn.com, msn.ca, and so on.

It really sucks if you expect to market your website worldwide. It seems as though each .com, .ca, .co.uk, directory is country or region wide.

If your canadian website was to sell products that german people would want, your marketing would have to be implemented different it seems.
You would maybe for example want to buy a .de domain name.

[lgn1]

I havent check my MSN rank in weeks and was surprized that it went from #4 on msn.com to #37, with no changes in copy. All the other listings have stayed the same.

We have a .com address but our site is hosted in Canada. We are ranked number #2 in Canada, and we
are a Canadian site, but 90% of our customers are americans.

I am going to be really peaved, if MSN is doing geographic profiling based on IP.

Please tell me it is not so. I don't look forward to hosting a duplicate site (with a google blocked robot.txt file) hosted on an American ISP.

[madmatt69]

Also - msn.com dropped the LookSmart and Zeal directory. MSN.ca dropped it too, but began using it again over the last few months. A few weeks ago, they stopped again.

Since MSN would display the directory results first, it would make a big difference if you're in the directory. But now it doesn't make any difference since they aren't showing those results anymore, at least not on a daily basis.

<added> I also disagree with the IP targetting..I mean come on, I could make a website for people in the UK but live in another country, why would it be any less relevant to people in the UK? I might just be looking to save on hosting, or maybe I'm from the UK and just happen to live somewhere else. Seems very wrong. </added>