Relationship between MSN and Yahoo

[Handsome Prince]

I have a couple of questions about the current relationship between MSN and Yahoo in terms of serving search results:

1. Is there still an ongoing relationship bewtween MSN and Yahoo? Does MSN still draw their results from Yahoo?

2. Is it possible to submit directly to MSN now?

3. We have a judgement against our URL in Yahoo and are being exluded from their search results. We DO show up on MSN, but we are way in the listings (#400) for our main two word keyword. We rank #2 in Google for this same keyword. My question is, does having a judgement against your URL in Yahoo hurt your ranking on MSN?

Many thanks for any feedback,

HP

[S_E_Zero]

HP,

1. Is there still an ongoing relationship between MSN and Yahoo? Does MSN still draw their results from Yahoo?

There's no longer a relationship for the natural results between Yahoo & MSN but they still share the same advertisers. So you'll see the same ads but the actual natural results are different.

2. Is it possible to submit directly to MSN now?

MSN currently doesn't have a submit feature but if you simple link to your site from a page already in the index of MSN it will be included in MSN

3. We have a judgement against our URL in Yahoo and are being excluded from their search results. We DO show up on MSN, but we are way in the listings (#400) for our main two word keyword. We rank #2 in Google for this same keyword. My question is, does having a judgement against your URL in Yahoo hurt your ranking on MSN?

The Yahoo judgement on its own won't but the reason you got that judgement will possible play into how and if you are kept in the MSN results.

[b0rdslide]

Is it possible to submit direct to MSN now?

Yes, there is a submit url link within the help section on search.msn.com

[Dayo_UK]

1. I am sure that I still recieve results from pages that are in Inktomi/Yahoo and not in MSN search through MSN.

2. h*ttp://search.msn.co.uk/docs/submit.aspx

3. Different indexes. Different Penalties (although penalties may be results of same problems.)

[Manpasand]

Here is the link
[search.msn.com...]

[maswee]

does msn allow phrases to be listed organically (in main search re#*$!s) if its already in sponsored listings? As one of my sites is listed well on google but not On MSN and it is there on msn for every related phrase in sponsored listings.
Did anybody else analysed that?

Thanks in advance.