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Google is actually smarter when it comes to junk links. I see why the sandbox exsists now. If you can rank on a good term on msn in days then it is easy to game. The engineers are going to have to work harder on some sort of link evaluation.
I'm not one for searching for my name but I did as a test to reply to this.
I'd say that I should not be top of millions of pages as I can't believe that there aren't better pages that the ones that make it to the top. I had a look at the other 3 pages, I can't judge their worth but they certainly do have relevance.
Maybe MSN are doing a better job?
Depends on the name. My name is almost unique. There is one 1 other guy there on the net with the same name as me and he does not use the net as much. Therefore the sites my name is on typically have more relevance because the pages should have more power.
So I do see this as a MSN failing because other engines seem to get it right for relevance.
I tell you what I also see as a weakness. There are doorway pages we have made and they show up, there are some sites that just do not make the grade and have a few link pointing at them and on msn it makes them first page material?
Every searcher automatically thinks using proximity, so the SE's should too. The searches I did in MSN yielded mostly garbage, because the SERP's treated each word I entered equally, instead of treating them as a unit with a wieght that was different than the sum of their parts.
Every searcher automatically thinks using proximity, so the SE's should too.
How about "every searcher uses natural language to form queries, so the SE's should too"? that pretty much ruins the whole proximity argument, IMO.
Or perhaps "almost every searcher forms their queries improperly"? Would you then add the clause "so the SE's should too.