What to look for on MSN, to get a good ranking?

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[zeus]

We all know that MSN will take over the search industry by 2006 and as in these times where Google have so many bugs/problems MSN will maybe be popular earlier then we think.

The rankings/results are very bad as I view it so its hard to think of why some rank good and some not, I do see sites have good rankings for a keyword just because they have a single page with the topic and the rest of the site has nothing to do with the keyword.

Domain name is important.

I also note that many sites are only included with 10% of the whole site, so its hard to meassure what would happen when the whole site is included.

As said before the results are very bad, you see alot of sites that has nothing to do with the search word, not spam, just not correct results, so its hard to make a good site for this SE.

[diamondgrl]

I will challenge your claim that "we all know". Making a great search engine is very very tricky. And Google does a great job. Far from perfect but every search engine is confronted by the same spammers and enormous technical challenges.

Maybe MSN can solve these. Maybe not. Don't assume they will.

But even if they do, that doesn't mean they convince users to switch to them. If the "best" search engine won the day, then Northern Light and Altavista would be Nasdaq darlings. They aren't and it gives an indication of the number of technical and marketing challenges to become relevant.

[2by4]

No, he's right. We all know that Microsoft will take over the server market by 2002, I mean 2004, no, I mean 2006. And we also know that passport will be the way most corporations store their data by 2004.. oh, no, wait, they shelved that one, no company wanted to join that program, that's right.

Let's see, what else? Oh yes, Internet Explorer will control about 97% of the browser market by 2004. Oh, I foregot, Firefox just grabbed a chunk. So I guess we really all don't know anything about this.

What else, oh yes, MSN will control 90% of all internet accesses by 2004, since it's a MS backed thing soon we'll all be connecting to the web using MSN. What's that, it didn't happen? How can that be, MS always wins, no?

Getting back to the real world, MSN search will probably manage to retain its current market share, and grow it slightly by 2006, if they don't make a mistake like releasing it before it's ready. Which means by 2006, next year that is, MSN search might have about 15-20% of the search market, at best. Google can help them out a lot by maintaining their sandbox and related failures, but I don't see Google being that stupid, and if they are, they deserve to fail.

[zeus]

About MSN will dominate, I say that because the normal user who has longhorn will type in there search on the web there and not type google, so I do think they will get a big share of the market and Google these days does not look good, but there is a "but",because the results are still very bad, so if that keeps on there will not be such a big change.

Because of the wiered results it is hard to say what MSN want of a site to rank good.

[2by4]

Yes, exactly, that's why MSN running through yahoo dominates over 90% of the search market. All MSIE browsers have been shipped to open on Msn.com. And the default search is msn. So of course, all users of windows xp and IE 6 now use MSN search engine. Hmmm. Wait a minute, they don't. That's weird. I guess they don't like MSN search, and are using something else. Don't fall for the hype, people can and do make decisions on their own.

MS probably hoped what you say is true, but it's not true, and that's been proven over the last 2 or 3 years. Users use search that they like, they look for it.