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Just saw this guy, fell into a spider trap:
131.107.137.47 - - [11/Apr/2003:01:31:08 -0600] "GET /a/deep/link.html HTTP/1.1" 200 12589 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)"
No referer, came in on a deep link (like from a SE), and d/l pages but no images. After about 5 hits, he tried to grab a trap, and got banned. Grabbed a page every 5 secs or so...
IP resolves to Redmond.... did Bill just get himself banned?
dave
Bill Birney
Microsoft® Windows® Movie Maker Handbook
Bill Birney has a background in the film and video industry
I worked at Motorola for 11 years, and it was common to look in the local inplant phone book and see several people with the same last name. And if the last name was like something other than Smith, etc. 9 times out of 10 they were related. Typically a parent would get their child a job there, etc. A lot of marriages also.
I saw a show on PBS once and they were talking to a VP at Motorola and the interviewer ask about inbreeding because big companies work like that a lot. The thought never crossed my mind until he ask the question. Heck, I married 2 women that work at Motorola in that 11 years, and it was common for ex’s of one person or another to have to be moved to another department because of potential problems. My guess is they are, but not married.
If I had to reckon, which is of course all I can do, I still reckon that it is a fresh-out or intern new hire by MS. Ergo, (newbiecrawler) newbie – is new employee and crawler - is my crawler. This could also be one reason for the hotmail addy, they hadn’t got the MS mail account set-up yet, or had problems with their new MS Exchange mail account. (and we all know that hardly ever happens) And/or they weren’t sure of what email the MS email police might or might not be looking at. So hotmail was safe and reliable.
I am 99.999% sure that 131.107.137.47 is not a MS SE bot, but some Bozo at their desk.
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If you re-read the link above, you'll note I said Mr Kieth Birney is a confirmed employee of MS.
In fact, the first receptionist I spoke with Friday afternoon asked if I wanted to speak to him directly - to whit I said "No". Ergo, since his legitimacy within MS as an employee has already been established the ... MS email police... is kinda moot. Employees get lots of perquisities, including e-mail accounts.
Whether he's operating within the ethical constructs (job description) of MS, is the quesion at hand and the primary reason for the direct-to-the-horses-mouth phone call as noted in an earlier post of mine. Dontcha just love older technology? <-Rhetorical Question.
As for your doing that search. Well, the only thing that indicates to me is that nepotism may be alive and well even at MS.
Pendanticist.
MS email police
Not if he is violating MS company policy. There was a case several years back where a Xerox employee got canned because of email police at Xerox. So I was thinking along those lines.
Dontcha just love older technology? <-Rhetorical Question.
nepotism may be alive and well even at MS.
When I worked at .M. and that would happen, they never said this person is starting and they are a graduate of, xyz, or they have a degree in, xyz, it was always, such and such is starting and they are someone’s son, daughter, etc. and that was it. I think this kind of points to the new hire theory personally. But, that is just my opinion.
If he is a 'new-hire' he's an awfully bodacious one! Like, the size of grapefruit.
:)
ZZzzzz...
Pendanticist.
you'd think he'd be nabbed by now
The second IP number I got didn’t have the ‘newbiecrawler’ as the UA, but had +’s, so between having a different UA and different IP, I’m not convinced it was the same person. But it may have been. Who knows besides him?
eh?
'new-hire' he's an awfully bodacious
In my experience at the big M, I’ve seen worse. But it would take a small book to explain. I’m probably wrong.
thanx, gunner m :)
:)
Once tomorrow comes, I should hear something back from MS. Until then, we'll all speculate our weekends away...er, ah, we may have already done that...eh?
<chuckle>
There is always the possibility that Microsoft wants Google traffic [webmasterworld.com] too.
Pendanticist.
