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MSN $75000 Annual Spend Requirement?

Questions about advertising directly with MSN

         

SlimKim

3:03 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We contacted MSN about advertising directly (not thru Overture) ...

they require an annual spend of $75,000 and ask how much you spent last month ...

we spent over 9000 last month ...

their auto-reply said they would contact us within two working days ...

they didn't ...

anybody know if you have to comitt to 75000 or if you can build campaigns on ROI results as you do at Overture and Google?

: )

talismon

7:27 pm on Nov 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You have to committ to 75K. We were going to do it on select keywords and then had trouble meeting the 75. Our sales rep suggested we raise our CPC to almost double what we normally pay - yeah right!

SlimKim

2:04 am on Nov 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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thanks for clearing that up ...

and how hard would be to just let you build your campaign on it's success ... there must be lots of folks that spend over the required amount, but they must be responsible with their expenditures ... they must build the campaign on ROI

I can have a campaign spending 10,000 per month within a week ... but I'll also know if I'm making a profit after 48 hours ... I just need the ability to pause / delete / cancel according to how well MSN ads perform.

There's no reason they should not perform as well as Overture / Google ... but I can't risk 75,000 to find out.

:)

skibum

3:32 am on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MSN traffic is usually the highest converting of any search site out there. It will probably convert really well but 75k is still a lot to risk.

natim

1:16 pm on Dec 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MSN does require the 75k spend, however all their contracts are written right now to expire in June 05. Also you have a 30 out cancellation.Plan for them to include a number of kw's or phrases that you wouldn't normally. That's one way they get their avg ppc up. Expect to pay near the top of what your best kw's cost in overture as an avg for all kw's in the project.The process will take some time for them to approve your creative as well as kw's. They will provide you with a list and also do titles and descriptions if asked, free of course.We are in NC and our rep is in NY. Hope that helps.

Receptional

2:36 pm on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)



Our sales rep suggested we raise our CPC to almost double what we normally pay - yeah right!

This has always been the problem we have found when looking at this avenue as well. In addition, they are fussy about the sites they let in - they need to be consumer focused and the whole budget usually needs to be spend on directing to the same website - so no superaffiliate with mega money to burn accross 200 CJ partners allowed.

The channel results (as I call them) seem very much to be targeted to attract media companies woth branded budgets rather than seo (especially if you concentrate on the "o" word, the MSN offering is weak)

MSN seem to take those top results to heart as "impacting on their own reputation" and as such want to ensure they align only with the biggest web sites.

That said - watch this space - it is interesting that Natim has noted the contracts all expiring mid 2005. Has anyone got a contract beyond that date?

talismon

4:25 pm on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's also easy to see if that space has been purchased. Just right click, properties to see if its being delivered by MSN or Overture.

natim

5:01 pm on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our project went live last last night. Early results appear to quite good. Took 2 1/2 weeks from contact to approval and launch.