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Canada ISP blocks Union Website

Amazing

         

lgn1

12:11 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[edmontonsun.com ]

Amazing, you never think it would happen here. Telus
is basically the phone company that controls telecommication in Western Canada. You think they would be large enough to have competent lawyers.

It would be one thing to block access to telus employees at the workplace, but to block a union web site from its customers, but not po*n, and ha*e literture, is another thing.

This is a story I would expect to hear from China, not Canada. Scarry!

mcavic

3:35 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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claiming it posted confidential information and was attempting to harass and intimidate workers by publishing their pictures.

As the Telus strike-lockout entered its third day yesterday, tension between the phone company and its union grew.

What's scary is unions. The fact that a phone company blocked a web site that's carrying harassing comments about the company during a strike doesn't bother me. If the government blocked it, it might be troublesome.

snowman

4:18 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anybody know what the blocked URL is?

balam

5:27 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The blocked URL is "www.voices-for-change.com".

The proxy workaround is "vfc.proxy.pfak.org".

lgn1

11:19 pm on Jul 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Websites can only be blocked or shutdown by court order in Canada, not at the employer descretion.

Now the people who had their picture taken, can sue
to have the pictures removed from the website and seek damages, for invasion of privacy. But Telus cannot act on their behalf.

What I found stupid, is after 4 years, a judge finally forced binding arbitration by an independent third party panel.

Binding arbitration, is the civilized way to settle differences. What does Telus do, they instead fight to overturned binding arbitration.

Im not a big fan of Unions, however on this one, it appears Telus is acting like its the 1890's

snowman

2:18 am on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The site:

www.voices-for-change.com

....is working now.

calman

3:43 am on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Please note that the website is only unavailable to those who use Telus as an ISP.

I use Shaw in Alberta - the website has been continually available to Shaw customers.

Also please note that Telus is not banning the website - just making it unavailable to Telus ISP customers. Even if their action is illegal, they probably are betting that they can resolve the issue as part of any eventual settlement with the union.

Telus has a antiquated inward looking management culture which has caused them a multitude of problems over the years.

Criticism of Telus from both within and outside the corporation is highly frowned upon. Consequently, their attitude towards this website is no surprise.

bakedjake

8:50 pm on Jul 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Even if their action is illegal

It isn't. Telus isn't bound to serve you any site you request on the Internet, and there's nothing in your service agreement that says they won't block sites.

If you don't like it, get a new ISP.

This is a non-issue.

Telus has a antiquated inward looking management culture

Similar, I'm sure, to union management.

lgn1

1:39 am on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Using a proxy server, is easier than switching ISP's.

I hope that Telus lawyers, has advised telus, that they are jepordizing their 'common carrier' immunity. If they selectivily display content, they become publishers, with all the legal pitfalls, this entails.

bakedjake

4:34 am on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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'common carrier'

Nope. Only applies to their phone business, not their ISP business.

oneguy

5:36 pm on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The fact that a phone company blocked a web site that's carrying harassing comments about the company during a strike doesn't bother me. If the government blocked it, it might be troublesome.

Agreed.

I'd personally figure ways to not do business with them over it, though.

andyll

6:39 pm on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Actually they blocked the IP which was a shared IP and many sites were blocked including several of mine.

Andy

lgn1

1:51 am on Aug 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ISP's not a common carrier. That's strange, they were arguing a differnt tune when they were being sued or harassed by the RIAA. Look's like they want there cake and eat it too.