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I'm from California

         

larryhatch

3:55 pm on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've lived in California all my life, near San Francisco where snow
is something you see on picture calendars or badly tuned TV sets.

I was in my late teens when I learned that the winter snows in the
high Sierras ran all the way back east without a break.

My question is directed to anyone with a suburban type home with a lawn.

How do you mow the grass when its under 1, 2 3 or more feet of snow?
Suppose you neglected the lawn, left it way unmowed, and there is a sudden snowfall?
Do you just leave it like that knowing nobody will see it?
Does the grass go dormant, or do you have to re-sod it in the spring?
If the grass dies, do the weeds die with it?

Sorry for all the questions. - LH

mcavic

4:55 pm on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've never known it to be a problem. Apparently it doesn't grow when it's frozen, but doesn't die either. If it's neglected before the snowfall, you just have to mow pretty quick when it warms up. :)

encyclo

5:36 pm on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's starting to warm up a bit here now and the snow is starting to melt. It'll all be gone by mid-April, but you can see the edges of the lawns peeping out under the banks of snow already. Basically, the snow seems to act as a protective layer and the grass stays alive but dormant. Once things start melting properly, the melt water can flood the lawns a bit, but they usually survive.

I'm not an expert gardener, though - I don't know if it's better to leave the grass long or short for the winter. I guess it is important to get rid of the autumn leaves as much as possible before the first snowfall, too.

pmac

10:54 pm on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>How do you mow the grass when its under 1, 2 3 or more feet of snow?

I usually bundle up rather than wearing my normal summer time lamn mowing attire of jungle print underpants.

>>>Suppose you neglected the lawn, left it way unmowed, and there is a sudden snowfall?

Never, and I mean ever, neglect your lawn.

>>Do you just leave it like that knowing nobody will see it?

Yes, but the guilt is overwhelming.

lgn1

1:23 am on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Gee I thought they smoke grass in California, not mow it :)

In Canada, the grass goes dormant, then all the leaves from the tree falls on the grass. You then rake the leaves. Then there is a wind storm and all the leaves from your neighboor blows on your lawn. Then it snows before you have a chance to rake a second time. In the spring you pay some kid $50 bucks the tangled mess of leaves and grass. Then the weaken grass is prey for a grubworm infestation, and you end up replanting the lawn anyways. This fall you let your leaves blow on your neighboors lawn.

AAnnAArchy

2:22 am on Mar 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<<I've lived in California all my life, near San Francisco where snow is something you see on picture calendars or badly tuned TV sets.>>

One year when I was living in San Francisco, it actually snowed. I have video somewhere to prove it. There was even a layer on the top of my car.

That said, I've lived in California & Nevada my whole life and I'd wondered the same thing about lawns, but had never thought to ask. So, thanks.

larryhatch

8:15 am on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It snowed right here in Redwood City, CA, on the SF peninsula once.
There was about an inch of snow on our front lawn.
All the kids stayed home from school and tried to make
snowmen.
Failing that, we had snowball fights. Nobody worried about the lawn.

- Larry

AWildman

5:04 pm on Mar 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm lazy about winter lawn care. In Erie, the snow comes in Sept. and stays through May. I've never seen anyone touch their yard in the snow. Maybe EVERYONE in Erie is lazy about their yards, I don't know, but our lawns grow back in green and nice every year. Well, save for the normal weeds and schtuff. But its not like once the snow melts you're left with no grass.

Leosghost

11:02 am on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Get a Caribou ...( think thats the spelling )..

lZakl

1:25 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Snow hasn't melted at my place yet, but I can tell you that when the grass comes through next month, it's because of moisture. No paint, astroturf, fertilizers, etc.. I didn't think they had real grass down in Ca.? I thought the water alone would kill it if it was real ;0)

-- Zak

Rugles

2:30 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>>In Erie, the snow comes in Sept.

What? In Erie PA? No way!

I am on the northside of Lake Erie and there is never snow in September. What are you talking about (read aboot).

Yes, grass goes dormant in northern climes, but it comes back green as ever in the spring.

AWildman

2:57 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh yeah, September. Middle or late September, but we get it. We already have a few good storms in by Halloween! The only place that I lived that was worse for snow was the upper peninsula of Michigan, although I hear Buffalo gets whacked a lot too.

I don't know why the Canadian side of the pond doesn't get the snow. Maybe cause storms seems to come from Detroit, pick up ammo from Lake Erie, and dump it on us. Too far south to hit you guys. *shrug*

MatthewHSE

3:38 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For what it's worth, the yearly snow averages [erh.noaa.gov] for Erie shows an average of 0 for September. But I know how these statistics go, and I'm not willing to dispute the word of an Erie resident. All I know is they get a lot more snow than we do here in Central Illinois, and I don't envy you folks a bit! ;)

More info here [erh.noaa.gov].

About the grass:

How do you mow the grass when its under 1, 2 3 or more feet of snow?
You don't, but if you mowed in the Fall, it won't be growing anyway.

Suppose you neglected the lawn, left it way unmowed, and there is a sudden snowfall?
You get a mess in the Spring. Particularly since, if you didn't mow, you probably also didn't rake, which means you've got long grass and wet, matted leaves to deal with when you finally get back to the yard.

Do you just leave it like that knowing nobody will see it?
Hard to do if you live in a neighborhood . . .

Does the grass go dormant, or do you have to re-sod it in the spring?
The grass stops growing late in the Fall, and doesn't start again until early Spring. Where I'm from, the only reason to use sod at all is at a new construction site or something where the existing grass has been completely displaced and eradicated. Once you get a good lawn, normal maintenance will keep it going year after year.

If the grass dies, do the weeds die with it?
Weeds never die. (Well, pulling them up by the roots and burning them works.) We've got some "Creeping Charlie" in our yard that simply won't quit. It's even burrowed under the foundation of our house and is coming up in the crawlspace, which means I have to crawl in and pull it up from time to time. It gets no sun so it's pale and white, but juicy and healthy as can be . . . No, not healthy to eat, but healthy as a plant.

AWildman

4:06 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<offtopic>Oh for Heaven's sake, I said it snowed, not that we got blizzards and major accumulation in September! :) That is probably why the stats are so low. But lemme tell ya, when everyone else is having a nice mild September, 65 - 70 degrees, and we have 32 and ANY amount of snow, we might as well have 10 ft. I just KNEW someone would look up stats to try to prove me wrong! :) Boy, if there is one thing I wouldn't want to brag about, its snowfall here! I'm no baby about snow; I've lived here most of my life, but, Erieites (save for those snow-sports lovers) in general would just as soon NOT have snow 9 outta 12 months. And yes, that IS an exaggeration. But it doesn't feel like it.</offtopic>

The grass is always greener on the other side of winter.

Rugles

4:32 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>not that we got blizzards and major accumulation in September! :)

It is melting when it hits the ground, correct? That does not count as snowfall. Just lumpy rain.

You will still get some really fine weather right through September and October. That is my favourite time of the year because I hate the high heat and high humidity in July and August.

MatthewHSE

5:23 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Humidity. Now that's something I doubt the people in CA can understand! My grandfather was stationed at Barstow while he was in the Marine Corps, and he says the humidity there can sometimes reach a whole nine percent! Stepping from 9% humidity into Illinois' 90% is probably about like jumping into a swimming pool!

And, just to stay on topic, humidity seems to have a very positive effect on grass. If we have a succession of hot, "smulchy" days, the grass grows like there's no tomorrow!

httpwebwitch

1:30 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How do you mow the grass when its under 1, 2 3 or more feet of snow?

Here in Canada, we're above the "permafreeze line" and it's so cold year-round that many of us have fake lawns (acrylic astroturf), so they don't need any mowing or care except the occasional vaccuum and hose-down.

Those that do have real grass will usually have a combination snowblower/lawnmovver, which you can get at <snip>.

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plumsauce

5:03 am on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the url was snipped, but is that the combo lawn mower (yes I know that it is one word but the regex on the posting engine keeps substituting something else in) that has tracks instead of wheels to stay above the snow?

i know they used to have some with tire chains, but it was a real #*$! to swap chains everyday because of weather changes.

never buy one without a block heater, just not worth the trouble when pulling it over.

httpwebwitch

9:44 pm on Mar 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yes, the one I have has tracks like a snowmobile. It also has separate bags for collection of snow and grass trimmings. Or I can remove the snow collector bag and it just blows the snow over to the left and cuts the grass beneath.

Another popular option is the grass painter which just sprays a green foam over your snow-covered lawn which hardens into a grass-like texture.

Eterion

5:55 am on Mar 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I live in SoCal so we dont get snow here... just really erratic weather. Umm, but yea, this lawncare company takes care of our lawn... i'll ask one of the gardeners the next time I see them! =)