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Cosmetic Surgery

Has anyone done it?

         

CrimsonGirl

2:53 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering if anyone has had cosmetic surgery. It's not just for rich people and celebrities anymore! I figure I can learn about it by clicking on some AdSense ads ;)

vkaryl

3:28 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My daughter had breast augmentation surgery 4 years ago. She's happy. My ex-sil had ditto 15 years ago. She's happy. My current sil had a face lift last year. She looks about 40 now instead of 55+ (her real age) - nice for her, and she's happy.

I would love to go to a nice flat A- (flat being the op word) but I have better things to do with the money since my insurance doesn't pay for cosmetic stuff (5k+ is a LOT for me to consider shelling out for that sort of thing.... lots of better things I can do with that!)

The one thing all of them said their surgeons counseled was to be ABSOLUTELY SURE of their motivations prior to going for it.

olwen

3:36 am on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had breast reduction done years ago (1970's). I might not have done it if the bras around these days were available then.

I've also had a gastric bypass (which is not really cosmetic), and had it redone when the first operation failed. That was worth while, but the results were not as good for me as for some people.

CrimsonGirl

7:10 pm on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I could use a little help in the chest area. Would be good for my ego.

mivox

9:27 pm on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I knew a lot of girls who had that done. The only ones who ended up with anything resembling "natural looking" breasts were women who'd already had kids (read: had some loose skin to work with), or women with a bit of body fat to hide the 'pucker marks' around the edge of the implant (If you're wondering what that looks like, fill a sandwich bag with water, and look at the seams)...

...otherwise, it ends up looking like you've got water balloons implanted in your chest. Which you do.

And no matter how natural they LOOK, they never FEEL like breasts.

If you have them implanted UNDER your pectoral muscles, the implants won't sag, but whatever breasts you have on top naturally will sag just like normal... which looks weird (If you're wondering what that looks like, put some sand in the end of a sock, followed by a softball, and notice how the toe of the sock droops.) And it takes major surgery to have under-the-pectoral implants removed (as they have separated your pectoral muscles from your rib cage), should you ever change your mind.

If you have them implanted OVER your pectoral muscles, the skin will eventually sag, while the implant stays round... (If you're wondering what that looks like, put a tennis ball in one of your pantyhose, and hold it up in the air.)

I'd recommend other methods of improving your self-esteem.

lawman

9:59 pm on Dec 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the post mivox. I'm going to show it to my wife.

mivox

12:03 am on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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*grin*

Essex_boy

8:14 am on Jan 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Crimson Girl Ill give you the seal of approval on them once theyve been done ;)

skibum

3:11 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Can't imagine having anything like that implanted into my body or dating anyone that did for that matter. Natural is beautiful. :)

vkaryl

4:30 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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....or dating anyone that did for that matter....

Ahhhhhh. Hmmmm. [Rant Mode On] Natural may be beautiful to you, but it's not ABOUT "you", it's about how SHE feels about HERSELF. It is up to each person what she wants - NOT to her sigother or a casual date - and certainly it's up to you to not date that person, but you may be missing something special should you allow such artificial criteria to interfere.

[And in fact, should I ever come up with the money to have "the opposite" done, I will do so - no matter how old I am, and certainly not depending on my husband's opinion! His opinion is viable ONLY for himself, not EVER for me. His opinion is that HE would be "missing something" should I become "a nice flat A-"; mine is that "all he needs is a mouthful". MY OPINION is the only one that counts when it's myself and my body, and my comfort level within those parameters.... and until you've spent 50 years being ogled and worse by every scuzball out there because you are far more than flat, you have NO right to judge.]

[/Rant Mode Off]

lawman

6:08 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nothing wrong with setting up dating criteria. I had several "sliding scale" criteria, but the one fixed criterion was no smokers - I didn't care what wonderfulness I might be missing.

vkaryl

6:25 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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*shrug* Smoking's a whole OTHER thing.... there's no way you can miss a smoker, there's no way you can tell an implantee without "up close and personal". Smoking impinges upon the world as a whole, "implanting" impinges on oneself alone....

lawman

6:46 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Haha, you shrugged off the smoking and were totally uninterested in my sliding scale criteria. The females in my life have much more curiosity. :)

mivox

7:20 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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it's not ABOUT "you", it's about how SHE feels about HERSELF

<rant>
Very true. But there are significant medical (and cosmetic) risks involved in getting breast implants... speaking as someone who's seen many women go through it, I can say you have maybe a 1 in 10 chance of turning out like the brochures a plastic surgeon will show you. (...and speaking as someone who felt my own were too small for most of my adult life, I certainly didn't think it was worth the risk once I saw it up close!)

Over half the girls I knew who had it done ended up having to go back for one or more 'repair' surgeries, because the implants were falling out from under their pectoral muscles, or because they 'settled' in a noticeably lopsided fashion, and those are the MINOR potential side-effects. Out of (if I recall correctly) 12 girls who went in over a three year period, only three of them came back with anything that looked like natural breasts afterward...

...and of course it IS all about what she thinks of herself, but before she spends 5 grand having water balloons surgically implanted in her chest, she needs to understand that she's not just walking in for a quick-and-easy route to big, beautiful breasts.

Besides, just like money cannot buy happiness (although it can make life easier), big boobs cannot buy self-esteem (although they can draw a lot of low-quality male attention).
</rant>

That said, I did meet two women (outside the 12 mentioned above) who had totally natural looking implants. Here's what they had in common: They had 20%+ body fat (which hides the outline of the implants), they had really saggy breasts before hand (I saw photos), they had the implants done OVER the pectoral muscle (so they hung like natural large breasts), and they didn't have the implants filled all the way (for 'squish' factor).

skibum

7:55 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sure, the only opinion that counts is the person who decides to get enhancement surgery or botox or whatever. Anyone can do whatever they want with their own body. It's what is inside a person that counts so if enhancement surgery helps that great.

until you've spent 50 years being ogled and worse by every scuzball out there because you are far more than flat, you have NO right to judge

to me that would seem to be the [subconscious?] goal of such a proceedure or maybe the unintended consequence.

vkaryl

3:42 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry lawman - you lost me.... my curiosity is reserved for other things....

skibum - first, sorry for the earlier rant. Hit a sore spot. Yes, I do believe that those who OPT to try for a look like I've had to deal with have a subconscious need to exhibit. I don't. Flat would be LOVELY. Literally flat. MALE flat....

pmac

4:16 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well that about seals it for me. No way am I getting my breasts done now. No matter how much peer pressure I feel, I'm just going to say no.

Now this guy [ananova.com] is a real boob.

lawman

4:27 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No reason to be sorry vkaryl; you either have it or you don't. Apparently I hang around with the wrong women. :)

TheVisitor

5:46 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, I was under a certain amount of pressure to go under the knife from my partner, who is a lot happier since I had the op.

But that's #*$! reduction surgery for you.

ronin

7:58 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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it's about how SHE feels about HERSELF

This is so true. It really is.

I've never been very happy about my height.
5'7" is not really short but it's a good deal shorter than I'd like to be. Aside from some sessions on the rack, I don't know if there's ever anything I can do about this. However let's say there were...

Given that I am unhappy about myself, there seem to be two variables I can change:

a) how I feel about myself
b) myself

However, if I opt for b) instead of a) then it also affects:

c) how others feel about me

whilst opting for a) doesn't. (Or at least not in such an obvious way). So I have to ask myself from time to time - "Is this about how I feel about myself? Or is this about how I feel about how others feel about me?"

The only conclusion I have ever reached is that I am depressingly shallow.

graywolf

10:43 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There's a company, in Germany I think, that will implant titanium "cups" underneath the implant, to prevent sagging, and you never "have" to wear bra for support again.

mivox

11:35 pm on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, now THAT sounds appealing! ROFL

AAnnAArchy

4:46 am on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It would be cool if they could stop bullets too...and make coffee.

bakedjake

10:28 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do they feel any different?

mivox

10:43 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would imagine titanium armored boobs would feel a LOT different... I think that's what Lara Croft in Tomb Raider must have. ;)

As for the 'regular' ones? Yes, they feel a lot different.

TheDoctor

10:50 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think that's what Lara Croft in Tomb Raider must have

Given the large number of times I killed her, her entire body must be made of something stronger than titanium.