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Where's my prozac? Dammit, where's my prozac? I want it now. Now, I said. Did you hear me?
That is a bit of a stretch.
Come now, they had what, something like a 100 or more shuttle flights. Four or Five landings on the moon. There is hundreds of satelites in orbit working perfectly. They recently landed on mars and sent back pictures and data.
I think you are focusing too closely on the few failures and ignoring the 50 years of success.
I had a flat tire a month ago, does that mean cars will never work right?
Why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?
All the rest of the explanations (for believing) seem reasonable. But this question, I have not seen debunked, yet.
The answer to your question, Grasshopper, lies in Area 51. Go there. The truth can be found in a spider hole next to the hanger housing the alien space craft.
Once you have found the definitive answer, report back with a 50 page, single-spaced, 10 point font, 1 inch margins all the way around, paper explaining the mystery. Footnotes and pictures would be helpful. :)
Now someone explain how a star system can be coming and going at the same time. I've checked
Area 51 and the answer is not there.
Vibration from when it was planted.
Uneven light makes it appear to flutter.
Breeze from Armstong when he passed by it.
You pick or make up your own explanation.
But seriously, I once was part of a panel discussion at the National Press Club, and I was talking with Sen. Chuck Hagel before we were to speak, and the first Mars rover had just landed, and he knew I worked for NASA, so we we talking about it.
Then I said, "yeah, pretty convincing, huh? You'd never know the whole thing was done on a Hollywood sound stage:, then acted like I shouldn't have said anything. He looked genuinely concerned. I'm so bad.
it is wobbling on the stick.
That's due to mice eating all the cheese.
>>Has anyone seen my brain?
Lawman your dry humor cracks me up. You must have been a Bob Newhart fan.
I shoud have just said "Q.E.D."
Take care now, and thanks for all the fish!
72 years young and not about to take any crap from that individual calling him a liar!
Right in the kisser...
In order to pull of this conspiracy would have required a huge number of people to be involved, including all the austronauts, the cameramen, the 'set' builders, most of the people working at nasa, government officials, etc. To think that these people were able to pull this off and keep it a secret for some 40 years is highly unlikely. Our ex president couldn't even have sex with an intern without the entire world finding out.
In addition, all of the so-called 'evidence' that shows the moon landing was false is completely wrong.
[edited by: lawman at 9:51 am (utc) on Nov. 27, 2004]
lawman... I saw it ealier. I think someone was selling it on ebay. "Only one owner..." ;)
If I recall correctly, there was a command module and a lunar module. The lunar module was docked to the command module and then separated. One astronaut (I don't remember his name) stayed in the command module and continued orbiting the moon while the others landed in the lunar module.
The Lunar module had a camera mounted on one of the legs. No big mystery how the photo of Neil Armstrong's first steps were taken! And Armstrong took the photos of Buzz Aldrin stepping down off the ladder ... if I recall.
... and the rumour that "Paul is Dead" [geocities.com] was the truth and nothing but the truth too! :)
I remember that one too and even tried to play Rubber Soul backwards.
Yeeesh ... people will take shots at anything!
I think that was Michael Collins. I was 7 at the time but I still remember the names.
I'm looking at the advanced technology we have today. How many million dollar satellites and robots have been sent into space, only to have them fail or miss their target completely?
I still remember the huge gaff that was made about the Hubbel telescope and how the mirror was wrong.
Going to the moon today makes little sense. It was, IMO, a necessary step to get to the point we are at today. I'm eagerly awaiting results from the Huygens Probe Mission (5 more days to Titan).
More Tang, anyone?
Lawman, did you ever find your brain on e-bay?
Try pointing a camera up in the sky and take a shot. You won't be getting any stars at all, you need higher exposure when taking photos of stars. All the pictures you see on websites and TV of different planets has taken several hours to shoot.
That is if you take a shot on the moon of a flag and a couple of astronauts you won't be getting any stars either. Of course you would get stars if you stand with the camera for several hours.
I don't think the moon landing was a conspiracy, many of the stuff they mentioned in the documentary that started this is just lack of knowledge about physics and astronomy. I'm sad for the astronauts who actually did this and don't get any credit.
Didn't Buzz Aldrin punch some dude in the face for suggesting the landing never happened?
And to clear some things up (actually some just facts)
Armstrongs first words were actually "very fine grained... almost like a powder" ;)
And also some people think Buzz Aldrin was the first off the Apollo. He was the first to enter and possibly the first off. Not only because he had a more public persona but also possibly to take the images of Neil stepping off.
As for the other image shown of Buzz and Neil perhaps the third man Michael Collins took the shots. He was the command module pilot.
I don't really believe either way. I think it is very possible that it could be fake, for the reasons listed before this and also because the pictures simply look... fake. Looks like they are playing on a stage ;)
I've seen some strange questions here, but never expected something like this...
You should give yourself more credit lawman, because I suspect you already know the answer. Given that you know and assumedly understand what red & blueshift is, and that you know that Mizar is a system and not a single star, you should easily understand this answer. (An overly verbose answer to be sure, but it's so all can join in the fun).
[ Mizar - a background ]
Mizar (from the Arabic Mi'Zar - "girdle" or "waistband"), the middle star in the "handle" of the constellation Ursa Major - a.k.a. the "Big Dipper" - has long been known to be a binary star system. In fact, Mizar was the first double star to be discovered, in 1650, and the first to be photographed, in 1857.
Spectroscopic observations of Mizar A (in 1889) and Mizar B (in 1908) showed that each of those stars were in fact spectroscopic binaries themselves. Thus, the Mizar star system comprises four stars in total - two spectroscopic binaries orbiting a common centre of mass, making a visual binary.
[ What is red/blueshift? ]
A quick 'n' dirty answer that substitutes sound waves for light waves...
You're standing on the side of the road and lawman, in his police car, is approaching fast, siren blaring. (For sake of argument,) lawman hears a tone of 440 Hertz (440 Hz = open A string on a guitar) while in the car. You, however, hear a higher tone of 450 Hz as he approaches. This is because the sound waves are compressed as the source of the sound moves towards you. When lawman passes and is moving away from you, you now hear a lower tone of 430 Hz. The sound waves are now being expanded. This is known as the Doppler effect.
If a light source, such as a star, is moving towards you, the light waves are compressed and are said to be blueshifted - the light moves to a higher frequency in the spectrum, towards the ultraviolet. If the light source is moving away, the light is redshifted, shifting towards the infrared.
[ To answer your question... ]
The Mizar A & B binary systems aren't statically sitting in space, they are orbiting their common centre of mass (and the separate components of each of those systems orbit their own centre of mass in turn). As they orbit, one star is moving towards the Earth, blueshifting its light while the other star moves away, redshifting its light - and that's why (virtually) all binary systems exhibit a simultaneous red & blueshift.
If anyone found this vaguely interesting, then check out this Astronomy Picture of the Day [antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov] where you can find more info.
What's it called when one HEARS the red n blue bubblegum machine? I've always heard those lights - grew up in Nevada, there's a million miles of flat out there, at night you see bubblegum machines a LONG way before you get to them. I hear them.... in fact, I've got a really nice percentage of "oops I'll bet there's a cop around, I better slow it down a bit" so maybe I "hear" them even when I don't see them.... my husband says he thinks I "feel" the radar.
[Last speeding ticket: Feb 1973, on highway 93 coming back from Arizona into Vegas in a 1970 Dodge no clue what model - belonged to the then-current sigother - was running about 120; the cop was a guy I went to school with.... I got off light, he wrote me for 60+ in a 55 - which was marginally true, of course....]
vkaryl, you drive 150 mph in a modded Z and 120 in a non-descript Dodge? What are you driving now and what is your top speed in it? :)
