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Can I plane a tiny amount of each edge and leave a tiny gap in between? If so, I guess I need to put something down before the new carpet goes in to stop dust coming up throught the gaps and creating those dust lines you get?
Or do I just need to whack a load more nails/screws into them to stop them moving about?
#1 result - http://www.xtramsn.co.nz/homeandliving/0,,9777-2204284,00.html (as the wife of a handyman, the advice in this one is sound)
Jeez... a mod even and he doesn't know how to use a search engine to find the answer. ;)
Or all the stuff in the links that hannamyluv found ( I was typing this ..slowly as usual and "H" posted whilst )
a mod even and he doesn't know how to use a search engine to find the answer.
I don't trust them because I know how easily manipulated they are ;-)
No, truth is I saw loads of info about using talcum powder and wax etc - but I wasn't convinced. Some other sites referenced those as "they don't work".
"Has anyone here actually succesfully stopped a squeeky floorboard and what worked" is what I should have asked and I think what you answered Hanna....
Smack it a few times with a hammer
Now, that's more like the kind of DIY I like!
Thanks Macrost. Now you can go back to celebrating ;-)
find the screws that are gold
The previous owner was so tight I'm sure if there were any he'd have taken them out and sold them!
Maybe that's why they now squeek?
Take the chart and the screw-gun, and put more screws into the boards from both sides where the squeaks remain. Give it another week or so, get the brother in law to do another walk-over, and if it's pretty quiet, underlay and carpet with impunity.
(I provide the above from experience: my husband and I built our house ourselves, including hardwood flooring; and I worked for a builder....)
There are several old temples and castles in Japan which are renowned for their "Nightingale Floors". It's a nice way to say they have squeaky floors. A lot of people (myself included) have paid money to walk on these floors. This was used as a type of security system to warn of intruders.
So, you could either look at this as an added security feature of your house, or perhaps you could use it to help in the resale value by telling people that the property comes with Japanese style "Uguisu-Bari" flooring.
added security feature of your house
Oh yeah, that reminds me of my second question:-
How do you stop a barking dog?
Silence rocks - the intruders can take the lot. I'm beyond care. I just want peace and quiet!
Probably just getting old
vkaryl - that sounds like as much work as Essex_Boy's suggestion (the second one ;-)).
The house tells me when it's warming up on after a cold night by making a popping sound or two. I like knowing it's warming up a bit.
The stairs squeak a bit. I don't mind. It lets me know when my teenagers are getting in late. When the kids were younger it also tipped off mom and dad that our bedroom was about to be invaded, which came in handy a few times.
I can tell when someone is in any room in the house. They each have either a door that makes a particular sound when opening or closing, or have a particular footsteps on the floor sound. Nothing really bad or annoying. To me, it's comforting, as if the house is keeping me informed about what's going on, letting me know if my kids are up, if they might be excited or agitated or simply having a run to the bathroom. I even like the click, click, click of our chocolate Lab's toenails on the steps - letting us know she's feeling the need for company (or many needs to pee).
Frankly, I think when the kids move out (1 is now in college) I'm going to miss the dialogue, the voice of mother house, my fellow guardian of all things going on within this domain that I have responsibility for.
VKaryl's advice works well.
Rip up the floarboards, lay down 3/4 inch plywood (of the tongue and groove flooring variety). Bond the plywood to the joists with builder's glue, and drop 2&1/2 inch screws in every 8 inches (roughly). By the time the floor squeaks again, you'll be looking at the grass from the other side.
Lay down 1/2 inch plywood overtop the existing floorboards, thhoroughly bond it to the boards with builders glue, and drive a bazillion 1&1/2 inch screws.
Advantage of ripping up the floorboards: Lets you find any other problems in the joists while they're exposed. 160 year old house, the squeak could be coming from a cracked and shifting joist. Plus, you can run new electrical and low voltage (cable feeds, Cat 5E for your LAN, etc.) while the joists are exposed. Plus, if you wanna get fancy schmancy, you can fill the space between the joists with insulation, which acts as a sound barrier between floors.
Advantage of laying new ply over the existing floarboards: Pretty easy to do. Also, if you want to up the plywood to 3/4 T&G flooring, with the old floarboards underneath, you'll have built up the inch and a half of sub-floor you need if you wanna lay down tile.
Usually people put in sheets of plywood or masonite (don't know if it's spelled that way in english) on top of the wooden floor and then the carpet on top of that.