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Chilling new ruling in Yahoo's Memorobilia Auction

         

grelmar

5:37 pm on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've seen bits on this court case posted elsewhere here.

Yahoo is being sued in France for selling Nazi Memorobilia on its auction site. In France, it is illegal to sell racist material.

The court case has been going back and forth for a few years now, with Yahoo trying to get US courts to intervene on it's behalf (the argument: Yahoo is a US based company, and should have to follow US laws.)

A recent Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said that the French courts had every right to rule against Yahoo:

Ferguson said if Yahoo wants to continue selling items on a site that can be accessed around the world, the company must assume the risk that it could violate laws of other countries and be subject to more lawsuits.

AP Article [hosted.ap.org]
took a while to find a non-subscription paper that carried the story

Ok, so tell me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this effectively mean that we all now have to become legal experts in the laws on every nation on the planet? Because my site can be viewed anywhere, I now have to make sure that my content violates no nation's laws, otherwise I become liable in that nation and can be sued, regardless of where I'm actually based?

mivox

7:08 pm on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Add a bit to the TOS of your site stipulating that any legal disputes arising from use of your site are the jurisdiction of your home state... every software EULA I've read (and believe it or not, I have read more than a few!) includes that bit.

The US court wasn't ruling on the validity of the French suit, just saying they weren't coming to Yahoo's rescue. Of course anyone on earth *can* sue you. Doesn't mean they have grounds, or would be successful though.

I wonder if Yahoo's auction TOS included bits about jurisdiction of disputes, that the user is responsible for following their own local laws, and/or that legality of specific auctions in different jurisdictions is the responsibility of the individual placing the auction... Seems like any or all of those would make a decent argument, unless France's legal system doesn't regard contracts with the same reverence the US does.

Leosghost

12:05 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just the French trying to flex their muscles ...the pages and all others of a nature contrary to French law are blocked from here ..
As are certain political sites etc and our ISP'S are now supposed to give details of who downloads what to record companies etc ...
Likewise the law in France actually says that the government must give prior approval to the content of all websites owned by French citizens living anywhere in the world before one can upload the files to the server ...really!
Liberte .egalite .fraternite ..ROTFALOL!

grelmar

4:09 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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government must give prior approval to the content of all websites owned by French citizens living anywhere in the world before one can upload the files to the server...

Ahh, so it's a French Gov't thing, mostly.

edit reason: took out postscript

lawman

4:39 pm on Aug 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Careful. We don't want this to turn into a bashing thread.

Leosghost

12:28 pm on Aug 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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don't worry ..it's only the government here that gets upto this kind of thing ..the average citizen wether or not they are "net savvy" hates them trying to run everyones life and surfing habits for them ...
We all just wish that our government could try to keep its nose out of ours and everyone elses business..but they find Napoleonic habits hard to get over...