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Shak

6:56 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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what on earth does that mean "john lived in a well-to-do neighbourhood"

are there places where they dont want to do well

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Shak

Timotheos

6:59 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Eh? Ya serious?

Well-to-do = wealthy, posh

I wonder how that phrase got started?

sned

9:02 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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as opposed to the 'well-to-don't' sort of neighborhood

ronin

10:40 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The expression is 179 years old according to the etymological resource at [etymonline.com ]

Fascinatingly, "well-hung" is a far older expression.

well (adv.) - "in a satisfactory manner," O.E. wel, from the same Gmc. source as O.E. willan "to wish" (see will (2)), from PIE *wel-, *wol-. Also used as an interjection and an expression of surprise in O.E. Well-done "thoroughly cooked" is attested from 1747; well-nigh is O.E. wel neah. Wellaway is M.E. alteration of O.E. wa la wa, from wa "woe." Well-done (of meat) is first attested 1846; well-known is from 1470; well-hung in male genital sense is from 1611; well off in the sense of "comfortable" is from 1733; well-to-do in this meaning is from 1825; well-heeled is from 1897 (see heel (n.)).

You'd think I'd have something better to do on a Friday night...

vkaryl

10:44 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Um. Horse people don't have a problem believing that "well-hung" is older than "well-to-do"....

Been used as a descriptive for studs (*sigh* the HORSE variety!) for however long horses have been domesticated probably....

In the history of the slave trade, it was also used in the same manner re male slaves of breeding age. Sad but true.

lawman

1:14 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Careful.

Let's stay on topic.

vkaryl

1:30 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmmmmph.

Shak - in the US, "well-to-do" is a quasi-polite euphemism for "new money" generally. "New money" in the 19th century in the US equated to people who weren't Rockefellers, DuPonts, et al. In other words, speculators in the bright new world of America and Americans.

Today, "well-to-do" is simply a term used by the media (generally and more-so than "normal folks" would do) about those whose income and bank accounts are nowhere close to approaching whatshisface (the guy with the towers and bad hair), but are still far far more than the local small-business owner down the street....

Also, my feeling is that the IRS is likely to look upon the "well-to-do" as a particularly ripe plum.... but that's only heresy, y'know?

[There - 'nuff topicality even for a Foo thread?]

grandpa

6:21 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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are there places where they dont want to do well

Yes, there are places like that as well. Daily life there is the antitheses of the well-to-do.