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Washing it all go down the crapper

Why? Why? WHY?

         

AWildman

12:06 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So, a while ago, my company decides its going to split off into three different companies based on the current company divisions. Yesterday, they tell us the new name. Its COMPLETELY different from the old name so GUESS WHAT? Gotta get a new domain name! YEEE-HAAA. I've been working my TAIL off for 2.5 years to help build the company's online brand name and they go and shoot me in the foot!
Not to mention that since the main company site was helping to make other company sites more popular, (not through any devious, spammy linking schemes. I'm a purist!) now THOSE sites will also be going down the crapper as well! Only one of the 3 sites stands a chance of NOT having its search engine rankings sink like a lead balloon.
To top it ALL off, the domain name corresponding to the new company name ....I'll wait to you guess what I'm about to say....ISN'T AVAILABLE! DOH!
And no matter how much I explain WHY the number of visitors and search engine visibility is free-falling, I'm sure someone will say, "Well, how did this happen?" It'll be followed by a news headline in the Erie Morning Times about a crazed worker who committed some vile and heinous act against humanity...
GRRRRR...
Now I know how the people who start those bad client topics feel...

Warren

12:13 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't you wish you were a consultant and not a contractor at times like this?

Then you would know you would have many many hours of work to get them back to the same position!

sem4u

12:19 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh well at least it will keep you busy :)

AWildman

12:28 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, right now, I DO wish I was a consultant. I'd be asking for big bucks to redo all this! And speaking of BUSY...NOW I will have to change every stinkin' instance of the OLD company name on ALL of the sites, not just the 3 main ones, but also on all our online products!
*sigh*
I know I'm the low person on the totem pole, but you know what? I mighta, just mighta been able to save some hope of keeping our rankings had they asked me what I thought. God bless that I have a great sys admin who is totally willing to help make the transition a little easier by doing 301 redirects to the new domain name.
Can I fire my employers? Has anyone tried that?
:)

All that's left to say is:

T G I F

gethan

12:33 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Can I fire my employers? Has anyone tried that?

It's called resigning.

I've done it several times, and am now on my own - pluses and minuses as ever. Just wanna say good luck, and on the domain thing... it will rapidly become your responsibilty to get the unavailable domain name, or at least that's the way the management will see it.

AWildman

12:37 pm on Jun 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, I still wanna work here, I just want all new management and owners. That's not too much to ask is it? Hmm..
Actually, the sys admin is the one who has to acquire the new domain name which is in a redemption period. I can imagine that there are others who already have it on backorder.
That's what happens though when you don't ask the "techies" about possible consequences.

I've thought many, many times of striking out on my own. My new car payment tells me not to do it...

vkaryl

1:45 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm pretty sure this scenario is the root of "going postal"....

Jeez. Bless you and keep you, because SOMEONE needs to be playing guardian angel about now....

Hm. Maybe you need to hunt up some decent VC and buy them out?

digitalv

2:32 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, I still wanna work here, I just want all new management and owners

Hahahaha that should go down as one of the greatest quotes ever.

PatrickDeese

3:36 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You can always buy the old "useless" domain name from your company and put adsense on it... :D

Dpeper

3:54 am on Jun 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You can always buy the old "useless" domain name from your company and put adsense on it... :D

I like that idea its like giving your self a raise... Good thinkin

AWildman

12:04 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That's an awesome idea! I wonder how easy it would be to convince the higher-ups that selling me the domain name is in their best interest because....*what's a good reason?*...they really don't want any of the customers who know about the old domain name since they are trying to start from scratch! Yeah! That's the ticket!

Leosghost

12:09 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Patrick Deese ..would you be venitian in origin? : )

grelmar

5:33 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Last time I had a day-job-type-job and an employer did something similar to me, I promptly went to HR and told them I had a family emergency and needed to cash in a few weeks back holidays I'd been saving up.

I went and got drunk for the two weeks, knowing what was ahead, and when I got back to work, all hell had broken loose, and having the two weeks off to think about the problem without the clutter of endless meetings and "Reorganization Transition Seminars" etc etc...

Well, lets just say when I got back to work, the next few weeks made me look like a Saint/Savior/Godchild.

Working on my own, the worst thing that ever happened was a company I'd been doing a ton of work for over a couple of months, went and got itself "merged" (in the unfriendly sense) by a larger corporation, changed its name and focus, and made all the work I'd done irellevant. The higher ups knew it was coming, but didn't tell ANYONE. To top it off, the new "merged" company tried to stiff me on my fees because I wouldn't be able to meet assigned completion deadlines, because I'd have to start from scratch. One of the internals saved my financial behind by calmly informing the MGT that I was the only person who knew what was going on in certain projects, and they'd have to hire me to do work in spite of the merger, so it was best "Not to create an antagonistic relationship." (All total lies. I was easily replaceable, and they could've been as antagonistic as they liked, because by the letter of the original contracts, they could've screwed me out of my fees, leaving me so desperate for cash I would've signed just about any new contract they put in front of me).

AWildman

5:53 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why didn't I think of that? I'm finally calm about the situation and I'm sitting here writing up a "this is the consequences" paper. Its also the "here's how we can sorta deal with it" paper.

Its funny cause I HAD this great, clear plan of what to do. Now, I'm looking up information, finding conflicting reports about the usability of 302 redirects (I told the sys admin they HAD to be 301 redirects cause 302s were terrible!) and their affects on search engine 'bots, and I'm wondering what I really know at all.

At least writing the paper makes me FEEL better about the situation, and provides a way to think out my plan.

paybacksa

5:58 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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the sys admin is the one who has to acquire the new domain name which is in a redemption period.

I hope they change their minds have to bid for their old names back! That would make them pay twoce for all the traffic you built up.

Actually I have seen worse.. I think it is worse to say you WANT to keep the domains, but in the transition INSIST on doing something that causes them to lose their backlinks and rank.

I, too fired my employer and neverlooked back. As for keeping the same job and changing the owners and management? That's easy... after you quit and start doing this work for yourself, hire some managers.

AWildman

6:13 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You know, if I had just a few grand in the bank, enough to make me comfortable, you can bet your sweet bippy I'd go out on my own...as would many others right now in my dept. We're all kinda unhappy. This whole thing just hasn't gone down right. We used to work for a company that had monthly company meetings (we are a smallish company), that was open about every decision, that WANTED to hear your input and made you feel valued.

Times change, guess I should too.

grelmar

9:41 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My very first real job out of school was for a very large corporation, that within a year of me starting there, began a five year cycle of government de-regulation, re-organization, mergers, acquisitions, and divestments. (It was a hellish first job).

I learned a few very important lessons though. When the big changes hit, your best reaction is invariably to not react at all. Just blend into the wall, become invisible for a bit, and give yourself the breathing room to try and figure out what's really going on, how it affects you personally, your department, and the company as a whole (in that order). If you can do that, then step in to make changes and work in the new reality, you'll invariably come out smelling like a rose.

In reality, its a very hard thing to do. But the tendency is for everyone to panic at the big change. If you can be seen as the one who reacts calmly, and deliberately, even if you make a few bad decisions, the fact you didn't lose your head puts you a step up over your peers.

AWildman

11:55 am on Jun 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sage advice indeed. I'll remember that.

vkaryl

2:01 am on Jun 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AWildman:

Apropos of another thread here, and the very real discomfort with which you are dealing right now, here's something that's "old", but may be "new" again - and might further validate grel's post above.

If...
Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

[Admittedly "male-oriented-slanted" but in Kipling's era, WAS there any other way?]

I think the single most interesting thing about this particular poem is its simple truth - not only THEN (appx 100 years ago), but NOW.

AWildman

12:05 pm on Jun 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Great poem!

Thanks much for all the support! I appreciate it.