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hannamyluv

1:04 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just read an article and how Amazon will be testing Plogging. Which is a derivative of Blogging. Which lead me to think, how many words have been made up to describe something on the internet?

Blogging
Email
Ecommerce
Plogging

I know there's more but it's Friday and my brain is toast. What other ones can you think of?

sem4u

1:31 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Website
Webmail
E-justaboutanything :)

troels nybo nielsen

1:44 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> E-justaboutanything

Eh?

sem4u

1:46 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There was a time when anything remotely connected with the internet we prefixed by an 'e', such as e-mail, e-media, e-commerce...

Macguru

1:59 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I get this leaving out acronims and brand names :

Applet
Baud
Blogging
Cyberpunk
Cyberspace
Digerati
Download
E-justaboutanything
Maillist
Modem
Netiquette
Netizen
Newsgroup
Plogging
Servlet
Spammer
Spamming
Spyware
Sysop
Telnet
Upload
Usenet
Webmail
Website
Wi-Fi

Could we update the list in alphabetical order?

trillianjedi

2:04 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Baud and e-mail pre-dated the internet (in the public sense of it's existence) by quite some way I'm sure.

I think Baud is from around the 1930's (a teletype definition) and e-mail probably originates from the 1960's as a messaging system running on a local network, pre-ARPANET.

TJ

Macguru

2:12 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Interesting. I keep on learning everyday here. Thanks trillianjedi.

zooloo

2:13 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Googling - to Google.

Although I've never said or heard it said. Only read that Google has become a verb.

zoo

john_k

2:16 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Who can forget "Information Super Highway?" a.k.a. "Al Gore's Driveway."

trillianjedi

2:16 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, been "googling" and I'm right about Baud which was named after Jean Baudot and the expression Baud Rate was first used in 1927 at a teletype conference.

The next great leap in telegraph technology was a primitive printing telegraph, or "teleprinter," patented by Jean-Maurice-Émile Baudot (1845-1903) in France in 1874. Like Morse's telegraph, it involved the creation of a new character code, the 5-bit Baudot code, which was also the world's first binary character code for processing textual data.

Clever guy.

Might be wrong about e-mail though:-

Ray Tomlinson was experimenting with a popular program he wrote called SNDMSG that the ARPANET programmers and researchers were using on the network computers (Digital PDP-10s) to leave messages for each other. SNDMSG was a "local" electronic message program. You could only leave messages on the computer that you were using for other persons using that computer to read. Tomlinson used a file transfer protocol that he was working on called CYPNET to adapt the SNDMSG program so it could send electronic messages to any computer on the ARPANET network.

From:-

[inventors.about.com...]

I remember using SNDMSG on a DEC PDP-11 many moons ago ;-)

I think you might be right though - seems widespread useage of the term "e-mail" comes from ARPANET days, which in essence later became the internet.

TJ

trillianjedi

2:38 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hypertext

hypertext

n : machine-readable text that is not sequential but is organized so that related items of information are connected; "Let me introduce the word hypertext to mean a body of written or pictorial material interconnected in such a complex way that it could not conveniently be presented or represented on paper"--Ted Nelson

Sinner_G

2:50 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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LOL, you all forgot something, you've got website, webmail, but not webmaster. :)

TheDoctor

4:13 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I was under the impression that there were no networks of computers before ARPANET. I think that "internet" specifically means a network of networks, of which ARPANET was initially central.

I think most people think that "internet" and "World-Wide Web" are synonymous. At least, that's how I interpreted the comment by someone I know that she didn't want to get information over the internet. She'd rather recieve it by email, thankyou :)

trillianjedi

4:21 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I was under the impression that there were no networks of computers before ARPANET.

Hmmmm.... you could be right. Not 100% sure. I always thought that ARPANET was simply the first network with a topology (NCP) specifically designed to withstand an attack - the idea of packet switching through multiple peers - same message being sent via multiple routes. Networking of computers may well have occurred before that..... but I really don't know.

I think that "internet" specifically means a network of networks, of which ARPANET was initially central.

Could be right also - I do remember seeing a diagram of that once many years ago - ARPANET in the middle and MILNET etc around the outside. Still was continental USA at that point though I think?

TJ

ogletree

4:24 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Newbie

trillianjedi

4:27 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Trolling

(not directed at you ogletree ;-))

<Edit>Hmmm... no - it seems that ones at least 500 years old!</Edit>

DrDoc

5:18 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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homepage
online
offline

2oddSox

5:59 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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'Innernet'

But that's only for our American friends ;)

macrost

6:27 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hacker
Warez

Hmm, can't think of any others...

digitalghost

6:28 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hypertext

john_k

6:31 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hypertext

I think that term actually came from the old Apple Hypercard program (early to mid 80s). They may not have coined the term, but they were using it.

digitalghost

6:37 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Earlier than the 80s-

<hypertext> A term coined by Ted Nelson around 1965 for a
collection of documents (or "nodes") containing
cross-references or "links" which, with the aid of an
interactive browser program, allow the reader to move easily
from one document to another.

egosurf
emoticon
hotlink

macrost

7:20 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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SPIM
SPAM

mivox

8:11 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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'Innernet'
But that's only for our American friends

"t'Interweb"

But that's only for our rural northern English friends. ;-)

mivox

8:16 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also:

-listserv
-search engine

And SPAM -- the canned meat product -- pre-dates the internet... not a new word, just a new meaning.

TheDoctor

9:48 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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online
offline

Predate the internet. I think they date from the 1950s.

hypertext

As pointed out, this predates the internet, and there existed programs that handled hypertext back in the 1960s, but only handled links on the same mainframe computer that the program was running on. Tim Berners-Lee's intention in creating the World-Wide Web was merely to use hypertext across the internet. That's it. As simple as that. Definitely a case where 1+1 equals more than two!

Spam

As mivox ponts out, originally a canned-meat product. It got given as a name to unsolicited emails as a result of the Monty Python sketch [detritus.org].

Spam spam spam spam. Spam spam spam spam, Spam, glorious spaaaaammmm. :)

mivox

10:17 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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But I don't like spam.

Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then?

[edited by: mivox at 10:24 pm (utc) on June 4, 2004]

mivox

10:22 pm on Jun 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Interesting... "hacker" apparently actually dates to 1950's model railroad enthusiasts:

[joabj.com...]

According to Steven Levy's seminal 1984 book Hackers, the idea of a "hack" came from the M.I.T.'s Tech Model Railroad Club. In the late 1950s, the members of the club would use the term to denote any project that was undertaken just for the "wild pleasure taken in mere involvement." Those who took pride in building better connections between relays were called hackers.

limbo

11:36 am on Jun 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Intranet
Extranet

T'internet

LOL! From the expression "aye dahhnlurded t'internet uvver day, twas brillyi-ant"

<added>
Not usually one to stereo type but living in Leeds for this long leaves it mark ;)
</added>

grelmar

3:27 pm on Jun 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm, most of the words I've read up here predate the internet.

Cyberpunk: That stems from the Gibson novels, which came out in the early eighties.

Hacker and Warez: There were hackers and Warez long beofre the net. People were trading Warez on 5&1/4" disks back in Apple II days.

Download & Upload: Come on people, that even pre-dates Fido-Net.

Modem: Err, someone already covered this. But anyone remember acoustic couplers? And the uber geek in your circle of friends who could whistle a 300Baud connect tone?

Wi-Fi: Nothing to do with the internet, really. Its just a general networking protocol.

Maillist, E-Mail, Mail this that and the other: Umm, E-mail goes WAY before the internet. I remember sending e-mails in the fidonet days, back in the 80s, and while the whole concept was new and interesting to me, it had been around for years before that. Maillist, and all the other "Email" dependant words also came along beforehand.

Netiquette, Netizen: I think I read these in a Gibson novel, or it might have been somewhere hlse. These words came out of the Sci-Fi litt, not the net itself. A lot of those books WAY predate the internet. What made Gibson so visionary was he was talking about abstract concepts in the early eighties, things that scientists and academics thought was possible, but weren't really sure about. Now, in retrospect, we can look back at those books and just say "Whoa, dude was BANG on!". If you want to find the origin pf much of the language in here, go read a box or two late 70s early 80s sci-fi, make sure its sprinkled with a heavy dose of Gibson, and you'll discover most of the terminology was sitting around waiting for technology to catch up with it.

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