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bakedjake

4:17 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Remember those series of books?

Discussing them with a friend (and fellow WebmasterWorld member), and I seem to remember always cheating - you know, you'd reach a dead end or unhappy ending then flip back and re-choose.

Anybody else ever cheat?

graywolf

7:22 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh good god yes! I don't think I ever got to go thru one without making a few mistakes, kinda like life.

Do you think kids today would sit thru one of them though?

Fiver

8:00 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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apparently there are live choose your own adventure games through downtown Los Angeles, via GPS.

that could be fun.

mivox

9:17 pm on May 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Never picked one up where I didn't end up carefully working my way backward through all the possible choices... even if I got the happy ending the first time.

What was really disorienting was reading them straight through like a 'regular' book. :)

ronin

12:48 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I remember if I was confident about my choice, I'd just flip through to the next section, but if I was a little uncertain, I'd stick my finger in the page to hedge my bets.

Also I could never be bothered to get the dice out so I won all fights by default.

You know, kids of today, no imagination... GTA Vice City, Half Life II etc. Blah.

Jenstar

1:18 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I used to read these too, totally forgot about them until now.

I also remember keeping my finger in the previous selection page, incase I needed/wanted to go back and re-choose ;)

Sinner_G

6:05 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Same here, also keeping my finger in the previous page...

And no, kids nowadays wouldn't make it. Can kids today actually read when not in front of a screen?

edit_g

6:31 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I used to love those things! I always tried to do it properly - but I don't think I ever did...

Also I could never be bothered to get the dice out so I won all fights by default.

I'd just re-roll! ;)

TheVisitor

9:20 am on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I still have one of these; I can see it from where I'm sitting. it's 'Island of The Lizard king' by Ian Livingstone.

Mind you, I can never throw books away.

Check this out:

[lairs.com...]

limbo

12:05 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow

That's a blast from the past

Ian Livingstone

He was the man! I remember sitting for hours trying desparately not to cheat on a particular section of one book. I gave up and spoiled the ending. The next one I battled through the temptation and felt great. Do they still sell these?

trillianjedi

1:15 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do they still sell these?

Probably at car boot sales, next to the Scratch 'N Sniff stickers.

Isn't nostalgia a beautiful thing?

TJ

ronin

1:59 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I always thought the Lone Wolf series by Joe Dever was better than the Fighting Fantasy books.

Mind you between me and my brother I think we collected nearly series published... he had FF and Sorcery! and the Ninja series by Mark Thompson (?) and I had Grail Quest and Cretan Chronicles (Ancient Greece) and some history based series which featured (amongst other things) the 1066 invasion and the American Revolution... oh, and Falcon, which rocked.

Falcon was almost but not quite cyberpunk.

I can tell I'm out on a limb here... >;->

Sinner_G

2:02 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> Do they still sell these?

Just checked Amazon for the Lone Wolf series by Joe Dever (my favourite series), and all volumes are either out of stock or out of print. :(

grelmar

4:59 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Heh, ever since my site went online, three years ago, (at its original incarnation on a "free" server) a buddy and I have been tossing the idea back and forth to make one for the site. HTML is the perfect medium for Choose Your Own Adventures.

We bring up the idea at least once a month, talk about how much fun and how "cool" it would be, then the conversation starts to trail when we realize how much work would go into writing one.

Come to think of it, Flash might be a better medium. It would create a more "rigid" read/play, and take the browser back button and tab browsing out of the equation.

ronin

6:55 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It need not be simply textual either - you could have a panel of text on one side and another panel on the other with a high quality animation and / or video footage alongside with audio effects. So you could see the character interactions whilst they were happening and dramatic events would have more impact...

Oh dear... I think I'm getting too carried away here...

grelmar

10:02 pm on Jun 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Oh! I know... The possibilities are ENDLESS when you look at it in terms of what can be done even with pretty simple HTML and animations...

That's part of the problem. My buddy and I would get to talking out ideas, and soon we'd realize it would be a 6 month to a year dedicated development project.

Overall, though, when you look at those stories in terms of what's possible to do with them now, they were almost ahead of their time.

You could even have alternate storyline submissions. So that readers could submit alternate pathways and such. You could post a base storyline, that could grow and sprout out in infinite directions as time went on.

*sigh* My kingdom for the time and money to develop that project. I suspect I'll see someone else do it and make a pile long before I ever have the chance to do it. Then if I did, I would be the copycat.

Teknorat

4:21 am on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MORPG's have kind of taken over from the old books people. Time to move on. (heh- Scratch and Sniff stickers where cool.) :-)

ronin

9:43 am on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not really the same thing. As gaming environments, the books were pretty limited, as narratives, they were revolutionary.

Leosghost

9:47 am on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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try googling "magicbook"

whoisgregg

4:49 pm on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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'd stick my finger in the page to hedge my bets

I'd use 6 or seven fingers at a time to keep track of my previous decisions, you could call it a digit-al undo.

/groan... sorry!

For an HTML choose your own adventure book to be really good, it would have to have no fancy anything... just straight up text and hyperlinks. :D

grelmar

4:51 pm on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yah, there's even some Flash based choose your own adventures on newgrounds.

I still think its an untapped resource, though. A lot of the "old school" stuff is making a comeback. Someone used bots to port a bunch of the old Infocom text games (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Zork, Leather Goddesses of Phobos, etc) to AIM, and it got so busy he had to get more server space for it. There was a whole Wired article [wired.com] on the subject a little over a month ago.

Just checked, and they're still responding just fine. So AOL has given it the tacit nod because they boot most AIM bots on general principal.

foxtunes

10:48 pm on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"still have one of these; I can see it from where I'm sitting. it's 'Island of The Lizard king' by Ian Livingstone."

That was a great read, it's sad but I still remember the name of the guy you take a ride with on the boat to the Lizard King's island, Mungo I think his name was...."Deathtrap dungeon" and "forest of doom", those were another two Livingstone classics. Also Steve Jackson's "Khare cityport of traps" and the thompson series of ninja books, "Avenger" and "usurper" very atmospheric.

vkaryl

2:03 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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apparently there are live choose your own adventure games through downtown Los Angeles, via GPS.

that could be fun.

Bite your tongue. Have you ever "strolled" through downtown LA? WITHOUT Charles Bronson AND Clint Eastwood AND Charlton Heston AND Chuck Norris AND.... etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseam....

Y'know, if you want to prove your "manhood", a "treasure hunt" through the above-mentioned portion of LA is probably JUST the ticket....

TheVisitor

10:35 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"That was a great read, it's sad but I still remember the name of the guy you take a ride with on the boat to the Lizard King's island, Mungo I think his name was"

I quote from the text...

"Mungo's years with the fishermen of Oyster Bay have made him a skillful boatman. He swiftly hoists the sail of the small boat and sets course due west across the silvery-blue sea..."

Well remembered!

foxtunes

5:45 pm on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"....Mungo's years with the fishermen of Oyster Bay have made him a skillful boatman...."

Cheers, reading that passage was a blast from the past.

I'm not suprised about his sailing prowess, the guy probably had little else to do with his time. With a name like Mungo It's doubtful he had a high success rate with the chicks in Oyster bay :)