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im a windows user wishing to convert

         

humpingdan

9:26 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Im looking for anyone who can tell me a little more about macs other than the genral promotional talk, i want to know from hands on experience what problems a windows converted user might come up against?

also p2p on mac is possible but can i download software and serieals from it?

Dan

sidyadav

11:15 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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can i download software and serieals from it?

ilegally? Why would you want to do that, you can get fined for it for atleast $50,000USD.

Im looking for anyone who can tell me a little more about

Yidaki, you listening? ;)
lol

Sid

Yidaki

11:27 am on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Yidaki, you listening?

hehe, i am. ;)

>also p2p on mac is possible but can i download software and serieals from it?

You can. There are many p2p clients for mac/macosx that let you access all major networks. But it's illegal on mac the same as on win. What sid said.

>i want to know from hands on experience what problems
>a windows converted user might come up against?

Depends on what you use your compu for. Webdesign? Print Publishing? Video editing? Sound sampling/recording? Games?

The most important reason for win users not to switch to mac is the lack of games. Most games are only pc compatible although more and more games also come with a mac installer.

Another point is: you won't have a google toolbar on the mac.

I can't think of other down sides right now. What do you use your computer for?

Although this is clearly promotional, it also lists some serious questions regarding switching to mac from the pov of a win user:
[apple.com...]

humpingdan

1:26 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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so is it possible or not, all bit it illegal?

Yidaki

2:57 pm on Dec 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>so is it possible or not

Sure, it is! Check your sticky.

Brad

12:07 am on Dec 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yidaki has it right, if you want cutting edge games stay with Windows, otherwise Mac's have everything you could want.

snowman

4:58 am on Dec 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm a Mac user since the 512kE.

My current Mac is a 400 MHz Beige G3, with ATi graphics, 768 meg RAM, 160 gig EIDE drive. I use it for sound mixing/editing, and my wife and son use it for games, internet, etc...

You'll have to pry this Mac from my dead cold hands before I switch to Windows (been there, suffered through corrupted registries, viruses, driver compatability issues, etc....). Macs have always been more about being progressive, than being compatable for business (Blah!).

You know what I love MOST about Macintosh? Unlike Windows (and this just never made sense to me about Windows) you're NOT penalized for seeking a gigantic speed increase by shutting off Virtual Memory. Macs just scream when you have enough real RAM in them for most of your needs and you don't need the swap file.

Try that in a Windows OS and if you're lucky you'll be able to boot up. Makes no sense - put a Gig of RAM in a Windows machine running 2000, XP or even NT4, turn off Virtual Memory, reboot and it runs like a slug! What gives!?!

P2P is very easily done. But it's too sticky a legal issue these days. I'd stay away from it regardless of what platform you're on.

I participated in the Beta trials of OS X and wasn't happy with it (the "Classic" or pre-OS X emulation wouldn't work at all), or the need to re-purchase once again all of my software for this new thing (they went through that back in the mid 90s when they switched from the Motorola 68k processor to the PowerPC processor, for the speed increase. An ugly expense I'd rather not repeat.)

I'm told this is all fixed. Good! But I still don't need OS X. I'll stick with what works just now (OS 9.1). Heck if I had my way, I'd still use System 6! That baby boots up literally in less than 2 seconds on an old 16 MHz Macintosh!

Oh, the major advantage of Mac over Windows? No registry to become fubar-ed, and so few viruses ever existed for it you'll just kick back and laugh your head off when the next virus spreads on the internet.

Troubleshooting is far simpler if an install goes wrong - no DLL files or any such thing. Just extensions, like puzzle pieces. You can see them, you can toss out the offending ones from a questionable install of some shareware, etc.... reboot and problem solved.

jamesa

10:44 am on Dec 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> what problems a windows converted user might come up against?

Little things at first until you get familiar. Some of the ways that the Mac does things is different than the way Windows does - they both make sense, just different. So give it a chance.

For example, I was on an XP machine and cursing the damn thing for not being able to do a simple thing that was trivial on the Mac. I clicked in the address bar of the browser and just wanted to move the stupid cursor to the beginning of the URL without having to back-arrow one character at a time (long URL with endless query strings). On the Mac you just Cmd-backArrow, simple. So why does it have to be a major chore on Windows? Well as it turns out, of course, on Windows you'd just use the Home key to do the same thing, making *me* the idiot, not Windows (at least in that case, heh). So when you encounter something don't just jump to the wrong conclusion, rather try to find out the Mac way of doing it.

Great site: macosxhints.com

Another good thing to know is that your Windows software won't work on the Mac (unless you run it in emulation... VirtualPC is now bundled with the MS Office suite). So, for example, your Windows version of Photoshop won't run on the Mac and visa-versa even though the user experience is identical on both platforms. However, most all unix software will run natively.

The latest version of OS X is the best for switchers by far, in both interoperability and familiarity. If you run into any snags, though, there's quite a few of us here that can help.

Chico_Loco

6:57 am on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I switched to MAC a few months ago. At first you're slow in it, but things become way way easier, plus the thing NEVER crashes.

I have an ibook G3 900MHz (laptop) with 378 or whatever ram.. it rocks.

Downloading software is not an issue, just make sure it's .. eemmmm, what's that word ... oh yeah .. legal.

I went to an internet cafe to get something printed today and there was a windows 98 machine. After using it for 30 minutes, I've made the decision to stick with MAC.

Besides, as far as computers go, these things look sexy. PC's just look ugly.