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Daughter has just finished Harry Potter

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8:21 pm on Jul 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My 11 year old daughter has just finished the latest Harry Potter book and is seriously considering re-reading the whole series from book one! Surely there has to be some good alternatives. Has anyone got a suggestion of a good long story (possible a series of books) to spread her enthusiasm to other books and not just HP?
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Who died?
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I read the Lord of the Rings when I was about your daughters age.
If she is into the fantasy that is always a suggestion.
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If it's the same genre you are looking for...Piers Anthony, Margaret Weis / Tracy Hickman, Raymond Feist, Steven Brust, Janny Wurts, JRR Tolkein (of course!), Robert Jordan (though it'll be about 4 years at least till the series Wheel of Time is finished I think), David Drake, Alan Dean Foster has a few good ones, Terry Brooks, um, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Any other fantasy buffs care to share their favorite authors?

Or were you looking for something in another genre? :) If so, can't really help there.

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Have you read the Songs of Ice and Fire? George RR Martin. A bit grown up for a 11yr old, but incredible storytelling.

First book is "A Game of Thrones"

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See if she likes "The Hobbit". Lots to go to from there.
< or there and back again >
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George RR Martin - yes, read the first one, perhaps the 2nd as well? I think I did, at least. There are a few series 'in progress' that I"m going to have to finish at some point, that either haven't been finished by the author, or I haven't had the time to go out & get a hold of :)

Also, Jennifer Robinson (or Roberson?) the Tiger & Dell novels, there are 4 that are good, the 5th one isn't as good, but still OK. (or is it 3 that are good, and the 4th is mediocre?)

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Has she read "the neverending story" by Michael Ende? I liked it when I was about eleven.
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Xanth novels by Piers Anthony.
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Diana Wynne Jones! Start her with "Charmed Life" or "Howl's Moving Castle". One of the great children's fantasy writers.

Also, 11 is a perfect age for a first reading of Kipling's "Puck of Pook's Hill" and "Rewards and Fairies". It is absolutely delightful to read them across the years and understand more and more of the characters and situations.

Also... Edith Nesbit's "Five Children and It" is hilarious.

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Any of the Valdemar novels, by Mercedes Lackey.
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Xanth novels by Piers Anthony.

Thats right, set 'er on the path to pun world.
Next thing you know she will be writing, Isle of View at the bottom
of here valentines day cards.

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"The Dark is Rising" series by Susan Cooper is great. I think it's 7 books - a grand epic about the battle between good and evil. I read it several times when I was about the age of your daughter.
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The LOTR trilogy would be a great sequel. I've only read the first Potter book, but it was a bit fluffy compared to the fundamental good vs. evil conflict in LOTR. She'll love 'em.

Congrats on developing a great reader!

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There's the Lemony Snicket series too. And when I was that age, I loved the Harriet the Spy books.

Oh, and please don't anyone say who dies in the new Harry Potter. I've had lots of work to do lately and haven't been able to start the book.

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Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis.
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I figure if someone can read the whole HP series they're qualified enough to tackle the Shannara series by Terry Brooks or The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan. Shannara has 11 books now and Wheel of Time is up to 10 - that'll keep her busy ;)
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Oh thank god someone else said "Chronicles of Narnia".... I was about to fall over! All these fantasy books, and it took until message 16 for them to come up!

Chronicles of Narnia. I think I read the whole set at least 7 or 8 times through, and my favorites out of it more times than that.

The LOTR trilogy, definite yes. Hobbit first though.

I also used to ADORE The Wizard of Oz series. It's so absurd and fun... might be a bit "young" compared to Mr. Potter, but they're really fun books.

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might be a bit "young" compared to Mr. Potter, but they're really fun books.

heh, I read Oz when I turned 19 or something like that, then Alice in Wonderland. Those are really great books no matter what the age.

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oh - I'll cast another vote for Narnia - read it mutliple times myself - awesome books.
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Well, I wasn't about to suggest Narnia - as I have yet to read them myself :) I only dropped names to authors I've read.

Though seriously, I would wait till Mr. Jordan finishes writing the Wheel of Time, at this point, rather than start, read all ten books, and then have to wait another two years for the next book, and another two years till the last one (he said repeatedly it'll be 12 books, but I'll not believe it till it's over at this point - been reading the series since I was 14, about 12 or so years ago.)

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>>and my favorites out of it more times than that.

I still read the Chronicles of Narnia, and LOTR, at least once a year. ;)

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heh, I read Oz when I turned 19 or something like that

Hehehe. I bought the first three for my boyfriend's 6 year old son recently (that boy is SO smart...). I opened the shrinkwrap and read them all myself before I gave them to him. :)
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It is absolutely essential to read LOTR when you're young, I found out. I read it when I was young and loved it. Friends of mine read it when the movies came out and thought it was dated, or whatever.
Once you've read a lot of fantasy, it can seem less sophisticated. But it was the original, it was the first, it is significant, and thus I think it's important to read it early in one's reading career. It's... dense, yes. I read it when I was about 10, with no trouble, but when my 11-year-old sister (six years later) read it she found it difficult.
So I read the dark and scary parts aloud to her, to help her get through them, and I think it made the books that much better for both of us.
So that's my plug. (I did the voices, btw.)

I also must endorse Susan Cooper's The Dark Is Rising series. It was good. I reread it recently and now that I've actually studied medieval celtic mythology I'm not as taken with it as I was then, but it's great when you're starting out. Not too dark or scary, despite the title; engagingly written, and really fascinating.
Harry Potter was a bit fluffy, and quite predictable. Good read, but...
Susan Cooper's not so predictable, and Tolkien's by no accounts whatsoever fluffy in the slightest.
But they're great series, and fabulous foundations of literary knowledge. if you're into the genre at all. Outside of the genre I don't remember much of what I read. ;-)

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>>hough seriously, I would wait till Mr. Jordan finishes writing the Wheel of Time

yeah - the waiting sucks - I only just discovered Mr Jordan last summer and read the first nine books back to back to back....I'd never done any reasearch on it so I had no idea there was a tenth book in the works until I was closing in on the end of nine and nothing was resolving

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Ack! Sorry, dude - if you had told me before, Oilman - I would have said to wait.

Imagine the suffering those of us who've been waiting more than a decade have gone through. :(

However, the size & scope of what Robert Jordan has done in that series can't be ignored, the way I see it, he has redefined 'epic' fantasy like nobody else since JRR Tolkein. :)

Of course, I'm a huge fan, so the above is way out of tune with 'actual reality' and only represents my skewed perception of such 'reality'.

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And for some good reading outside of the fantasy genre, there's Black Beauty by Anna Sewell, Little Women, Little Men, Jo's Boys and Eight Cousins by Louisa May Alcott, Call of the Wild by Jack London, Old Yeller by Fred Gipson and the entire Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys series.
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Chronicles of Narnia: Absolutely essential. (Though I think they re-ordered them since I was a kid - anybody know anything about this? I am almost positive that Voyage of the Dawn Treader was 3rd when I read them, but now it's 5th, I think)

LoTR: Great books. I read them when I was 20 for the first time, and absolutely loved them - I had tried to read "The Hobbit" when I was younger, but just couldn't get into it. I guess it just wasn't the right time for me to read them.

Also, Madeliene L'Engle is pretty good. I liked "A Wrinkle In Time" and "A Wind In the Door" better than some of her other ones, though.

Ursula K. LeGuin's Earthsea Trilogy (with a 4th book, written in the last 5 years or so) are also really good. I think the second one, "The Tombs of Atuan" is my favorite of these.

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now the imagination is unlocked by Harry Potter - a classic could be in order - I read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich (Alexander Solzhenitsyn) at around that age - it was a really valuable experience.
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