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2:13 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Need to blow off a little steam here, I figured the Fooites ought to help calm me down.

My newest SEO company's article (early April publishing) was taken almost word for word by someone else who is an SEO and taking credit for it! Stumbled on it by accident when I was reading an article of his somewhere else. I hadn't heard of him or the company before and took a look at his site. Compared it paragraph by paragraph...a few sentences changed here and there, but the verbiage and style are uniquely mine. Gotta admit that the first word that came to my mind was scumbag.

We're sitting here working up some sort of email to send him. Just ticks me off mostly, worse than the people who use your free article but don't use your author/copyright information as you ask them to.

Geesh! :(

2:18 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sad to say, but welcome to the "no credit" club, WebRookie! Any minute now, 2 or 3 dozen members here will be along to commiserate.
2:20 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That sucks :(

I was just looking at an SEO site earlier that basically said they would buy Overture listings for you - without saying they were Overture listings.

Seemed pretty dirty to me.

Hope the ripoff artist gets what they deserve. You have my sympathies, too.

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Thanks guys. Not unexpected and I guess I should be flattered (not that I'm feeling that way right now), I'm sure many others have experience the same type of situations.
2:32 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Experience! This whole board gets ripped routinely. And not only the board itself (Laisha, WebGuerrilla, Heini, Rumbas are queueing up ...this might end up matching a google update thread in size).
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Can't even imagine how much is copied from the forums here! The time and energy it takes to carefully write a thread or article - then you are taken advantage of.
3:03 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hmmm... seems like a good time to write a new article on plagiarism using your esteem colleague as a fair play example.

...and send an advance copy to get some first-hand feedback... through your lawyer.

3:05 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just last week found our whole SEO site copied and placed into some cheesy web hosting/design/computer dealer and repair/training classes/you name it if it has to do with computers we do it/christmas lights (seriously) site, as their apparently-new "seo" section.

I don't really care, because (except for the extremely well-written section on SEO) the site's pretty pathetic; bad design, typos, poor grammar, etc... and a PR0, maybe because of the "Links 2 You" page.

So while I'm not quite as steamed as WebRookie, that's my current complaint.

And, fathom, that's a great idea. I might do that myself. Maybe mention them as an example with a link... and then ask them for a reciprocal. :)

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hmmm... seems like a good time to write a new article on plagiarism using your esteem colleague as a fair play example.

...and send an advance copy to get some first-hand feedback... through your lawyer.

Good idea...thanks. ;)

3:45 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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With every disaster, personal and/or professional tragedy or shortcoming there is always an opportunity that can be capitalized on.

The knee-jerk reaction is getting mad and actually doing something stupid that makes the whole situation worst.

The entrepreneur is us all > is that little voice in your head which continuously pushes out ideas for us to act on.

Plagiarism is one of those things that allows you to take disadvantage and turn to an advantage simply because the moron immediately put you in the drivers seat... you are on the right side of the law, and that is a major advantage.

Plan your next moves... make sure you stay on the right side of the law.

WebRookie, this guy just gave you an enormous opportunity "particularly within his local area".

Strategize and captialize! :)

3:54 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm in a minority here, I don't care that much when someone nabs my work. The people stealing my content rarely beat me in the SERPS that would bring up the article.

What I do is simply add the following to my article:

This article has been reprinted at the following sites:

www.theystolemywork.com
www.contentnabbers.com
www.copyjackers.com

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Sent a polite and detailed note to him and will wait to see what the response is. :)
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(Laisha, WebGuerrilla, Heini, Rumbas are queueing up ...this might end up matching a google update thread in size).

Grrrr! I was about to go to bed, then I read this!

I had a so-called expert from an extremely large internet magazine steal something I wrote awhile back.

I sent emails to him and cc'd about 10 high mucky-mucks at the big internet company. I wanted a reference and link.

He claimed, in email to a friend, that he was "too busy" and indicated that surely it's understandable that someone as busy as he is would understand his action.

They had him mention my name, but no link.

I went to a trademark/copyright lawyer who talked me into getting trademarked. Bluh!

He gave me a letter to send to the large internet company.

The plagarist removed the entire stolen portion, which made up more than 1/2 of "his" article. They kept him on at the large internet company, where he writes a monthly article. Now and then, I read his article and say to myself, "Hmm. Nice article. I wonder who wrote it?" :)

There is only so much you can get for straight copyright infringement.

Overall, I think digitalghost's answer (#11 in this thread) is the least expensive and least exhausting one!

6:29 am on May 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I sympathize... this kind of stuff is a real drag. Here's one of the more detailed WebmasterWorld threads on the subject...

How to deal with copyright violators
[webmasterworld.com...]

Google has a Digital Millennium Copyright Act page, and you can submit your complaint to them:
[google.com...]

It is our policy to respond to notices of alleged infringement that comply with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act... and other applicable intellectual property laws, which may include removing or disabling access to material claimed to be the subject of infringing activity.

Also, there are some sample complaints to Google on the Chilling Effects Clearinghouse site... www.chillingeffects.org.

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JayC - hey, at least their site sucks. No doubt someone will notice the difference in writing quality compared with the rest of the site.

This article has been reprinted at the following sites:

www.theystolemywork.com
www.contentnabbers.com
www.copyjackers.com

Digitalhost - what a fine idea, may just do that. :)

I had a so-called expert from an extremely large internet magazine steal something I wrote awhile back.

That whole situation really stinks, Laisha. You gotta wonder how people can take credit for someone else's work, just unreal. Then to give you excuses when they get caught. :(

Robert, thanks for the thread info, really appreciate it.

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My husband devised a very polite and carefully worded email to the company then sent it last night. We received a response shortly after from a manager in the company who apologized and stated he would replace the article with my article complete with author info, etc. Took a look today and there it is!

My hubby thought we should offer to add them to our regular article submission list. ;) hehehe.

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Nice! (Though I must admit I prefer a far more violent ending to the storyline, heh).

Once again, FOO-ites triumph over evil.

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Commiserations, however, I donít find it surprising. About 30 - 40% of the SEO and related email I get is just rehashed material from WebmasterWorld, usually 24-48 hrs after it has gone on the forum.

In fact it looks like a few people make some kind of living reproducing ideas from WebmasterWorld, but I just speculating at this point.

Enjoy the weekend, all. Get even on Monday.

Rich

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Quick update for you. Sent the second part of the article out yesterday to our list of sites, which now includes the company who copied and took credit for our article.

Got an email today from the plagiarist (the CEO of the company) who copied the first part of our article. He said they'd add the second half to their site with credit to us. Then he asked if they listed our site on their website would we would respond with a reciprocal link! No, I didn't say "it would be a cold day in Hell", just didn't respond to that part of the email. ;)