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WebmasterWorld's confessional.

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Macguru

4:52 am on Apr 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK, here it goes.

I made my first site at no charge for practical training at the end of a course. It was for a broke local glass artist association. It used frames and had a counter on home page. We had 30 000 visitors in 2 years.

I feel better now.

Who's turn is it?

bcc1234

11:43 pm on Apr 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I set up a BBS when I was 13 called... Er... Sweet Leaf... It was all about the sweetness of leaves... Yes... Quite.

Rock on! I had a BBS on my parents' phone line working from midnight to 6 am :)

Man, were they pissed some times :)

chrisnrae

11:59 pm on Apr 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok, I'll publicly shame myself:

Hi, my name is Rae, and I built my first site in late 1997 with Homestead.

Used their pagebuilder you had to download every time. It had a red textured background, basic homestead globe graphic with a yellow line circling it and yellow and white text. One subpage, just as hideous. Man, I showed that site to everyone. I was so proud. My second and third sites were also on Homestead... I had no ambitions of a commercial site. I was just doing them to do them.

Upgraded to Netscape composer in 1999 and built my only site fit for human eyes (although barely) with a purpose - still not commercial. Still didn't know a lick of HTML and it was hosted on Netscape free space. I remember being so frustrated at not being able to make the table columns different widths (hanging my head in shame). I had NO clue what a search engine ranking was, not idea about titles, metas, etc. Just a personal website-a-holic who didn't know HTML, SEO or had even submitted a single site to a search engine.

In 2002 I found affiliate marketing by accident. I learned REAL code and learned SEO and am now making double what my husband does.

Luckily, Homestead upgraded to paid hosting a few years back and all my old sites were trashed and there is no evidence to be found, LOL. The site I made in 1999 is now run by another person and has since been redesigned. But I still think back to that first red site and shudder. My apologies for ever creating a website without a license :).

Rae

seofan

12:10 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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1. Horrid mono-note midi of Stairway to Heaven
2. 8 animated Graphics
3. 16, 18 and even 24 point type
4. Broken links after a period of time that was never updated
5. Form that didn't work
6. Oh....and you couldn't turn off the midi.........

olwen

1:13 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first page is still online and comes up #1 if you Google me. It plays <snip>, but you have to click on it, and I get infrequent email about that. I sometimes think I'm the internet expert on <snip>. I have some specialised health stuff there that got me lots of links, and the #1 position.

[edited by: Macguru at 1:39 am (utc) on April 3, 2003]
[edit reason] No specifics please, thanks [/edit]

doc

2:33 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first site had all of the above elements, background gif, Midi music, huge picture files, 242KB each one, page counter and flashing update marker. I was very proud of the site and its still around, now with a PR0 which I am glad for so nobody can find it now. Although the hit counter now registers 360 after 5 years, most of the visitors were probable me checking on the hits! One benefit I got from it was somebody retouched and colorized one of the old pictures on the site because it was so large that he could work with the image.

I am woefully ashamed of my second, consists of nothing but links and created on FrontPage, at least I learned how to submit it to Yahoo and Alta Vista and 400,000 people have visited my humiliating site.

If somebody could tell my what PHP is perhaps it could be improved.

Oaf357

3:23 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I made my first site with FrontPage Express (bundled with the first release of IE4, I think). I was 15 at the time. It was a personal homepage of sorts that had a hideous orange background it wasn't too heavy on graphics and it did load in under 15 seconds on my 28.8 BOCA modem.

The site wasn't great by any strectch of the imagination but, my second site got me a sweet job as a webmaster for an ISP my senior year in high school.

kfander

3:34 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I ran a BBS - Newberry BBS - for twelve years. Moving to the Internet was a natural, but much hated progression; I much preferred the BBS, and could have happily stayed there if the damned Internet hadn't put me out of business. I call it a business, although a good month is one in which my subscriptions came close to paying my bills.

My first website is still on Geocities; and for posterity's sake I update only enough to keep the contact information current and to keep Geo/Yahoo from closing it down. It's pretty horrific, but it still gets traffic.

Actually, I "may" have had one on AOL even before that, but I try to put those memories behind me ...

I've actually gotten lazier in the past few years, although I think of it as being more practical, since I'd rather spend my time adding content with a WYSIWYG editor than playing around with HTML in a text editor. I can put a site together in notebook, but I can't maintain as many of them as I currently have.

WebRookie

4:18 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, my first website was built at Geocities in 1998. It was my class project, a gardening site for kids. Green text on a green graphic background (not the same color, but bad enough). Used some free buttons along with my early Photoshop graphics. Hand coded my HTML, but not very smoothly. Clunky looking and too much stuff on the pages. At least the content was good. ;)

Best of all, still running and getting loads of visitors every week. Hehehe!

Macguru

4:24 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Best of all, still running and getting loads of visitors every week. Hehehe!

Then, feel free to change text color to yellow. ;)

franklin dematto

4:26 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Okay, now how 'bout hearing how y'all went pro and eventually hit-it-big?

Macguru

4:38 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Shhh... We are in the confessional here. Lets stay on topic. I am sure no one around sinned to become sucessful. ;)

Feel free to start another tread about it, my son.

webwoman

5:12 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My web life has not been nearly as exciting as many here, but -
1. I sometimes wake at nite in a shivering sweat dreaming that I've used a blink tag :(
2. I once thought that Network Appliance was a brilliant idea.
3. Sometimes for fun I make ten-layer deep nested tables using different tiny animated gifs for backgrounds.

Forgive me.

mil2k

5:21 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Like many others did my first website as a project. Was too lazy to code. Hence didn't use Titles! The project was mainly abt ASP and hence concentrated over there. Glad that thing reached only till intranet level.

jatar_k

5:22 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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just a programmer, so my sins might amount to too many white bg, text only sites.

Graphics? What Graphics? ;)

I do remember on my first pages saying things like
"how do the images get in there"
and
"what's ftp?"

I also remember taking some on cd html course type thing. I think there was blinking text and horrid garish colours, hehe.

I also remember asking "what are those meta tag things?". I was working on an annual report for a big corp. My boss said "Just copy the ones from last year".

iJeep

6:15 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I feel sooooo old, and I know I am one of the younger ones floating around here.

Anyway, it was a godsend when NN4.x came out because it was so fast stable....

I don't remember for sure what my first web page was, but I can guarantee it was scary. I know that it was done on a text editor because there weren't many graphical editors out yet. I also remember that all of the pictures were black and white because I didn't know anybody that could afford one of the color scanners back then. In fact I was still connecting (from home) with a 2600 or 14.4k modem thru a *nix based free *text* internet access through the local library. This was right at the end of the BBS days.

Now...I'm still using a text editor for the web design. Just a little faster computer.

Fiver_321

6:52 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



Here is the source for my web page (tags with : instead of brackets) :-

:BODY:
:P:HELLO WORLD:/P:
:/BODY:

C was one of my first languages learned, so I thought this was appropriate to get me going.

richardb

7:42 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ha ha

First site? Oh yes, the company I was doing some Access deduplication for on a 486 with on 14Meg of spare disk space, wanted a site... Well I did them a site and they went bust :0 Come to think of it nothing changes :

Rich

getvisibleuk

7:47 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first site was nearly five years ago. Horrible orange background, dhtml scroller for their products and no css. yuk - still ranked well in exite though!

Today it's 2/3 in most s.e's and convinced the client to have a redesign. Phew ... I can now link to it from my corporate site.

Are there people that created work they're not proud of and won't link to it from their own site?

danny

7:47 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first site is still going... my book review collection. I just grabbed the text files, which had been distributed by ftp till then, and dumped them in a directory - no HTML even, I relied on the directory indexing!

It's evolved just a little since then, but incrementally rather than drastically.

fathom

8:10 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why doesn't fathom own a web site?

Tested too many "failed" garbage strategies... but learned alot from those failures! :)

Doorway pages did work for quite awhile -- a 5 page site and 100 doorways?

[edited by: fathom at 8:12 am (utc) on April 3, 2003]

jaski

8:11 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think I used blink tags inside marquee tags to make it "work" on both IE and netscape... and used no less than 20 different colours for backgrounds and text on a single page .. the best part was the kick I got when I saw the page I myself "designed" right here on my computer opening from the internet url .. somewhere on angelfire.com ...

giggle

9:19 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Bless me WebmasterWorld but I too have sinned.

First web site was around 1997. It had three big frames on the home page, if you clicked a button it would link to a page with more frames breaking up the page further! (you know the scrollable frames with BIG borders breaking up the page).

Urhhhh...

olwen

11:46 am on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Okay, now how 'bout hearing how y'all went pro and eventually hit-it-big?

Never did master "hit-it-big" :(

limbo

12:15 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Blank screen with and animated gif of a bouncy ball that followed the mouse and bounced all over the screen. There was absolutley no point to it.

It was fun but it only worked on later versions of IE. The javascrpit was dangerosuly slow and the gif was 100K hence it only looked good locally.

"Why does it load so slowly? why doesn't it work like I want it to?Testing whats testing?

Oh well :)

<added>

Telephone converstaion with friend having "launched" above web page went something like this.

Me: "Hi mate, will you take a look at my **new** website, i've just put it on the web. It's my first attempt so be gentle"

Him: [reluctantly] "Go on then what's the url"

Me: "url is..."

Him: "types in url a and clicks enter"

Me: anticipation growing (how sad am I?)

Him: "all I see is a blank page with errors"

Him: "what am I supposed to be looking at?"

Me: "well it supposed to be a .......(see above)"

Him: did you test it other browsers like netscape?

Me: "whats netscape?"

Him: "Ha HA HA HA" 'Click' .....tone

Sorry, Sorry, sorry.

</added>

mona

1:48 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't look at my user profile,don't look at my user profile, don't look at...

Sinner_G

2:08 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm, let's see... Yellow text on green and black graphic background, hosted on Angelfire, a counter and an animated 'under construction' gif... Oh, and of course nearly all pics were from some other site.

So what's the sentence, do we have to recite some prayers now?

crosenblum

2:52 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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BTW I love this thread, went thru a lot of similar experiences.

I was in the local 612 bbs scene, in the start of the bbs scene in 1980. At different parts of time between 1980,1984, 1992 I had 3 different bbses.

In fact my last bbs is still listed in the textfiles.com bbs list for 612.

Ever since seeing my first Apple 2+ computer, I knew computers and I would be good friends.

I have always been a pure coder, using textpad to do all my coding. I absolutely can not stand wyswyg, especially if i have to clean up the code created by other people using them. It's always ugly.

Man time does change.

My first site was a techsupport intranet/troubleshooter.

My second site was for my bbs modding group, Thought Surfers.

My third site was a sports site, started with static html on geocities and worked my way up from geocities to Cold Fusion 5 and SQL Server.

What a long road, I learned that I am an obsessive compulsive, when it comes to features and tweaking, I always want to add something new or try something new.

From designing a content management system to story management, forum management.

I loved seeing all the great ideas for managing data, and try to come up with coldfusion versions of them.

For anyone who wants to remember the bbsing days go to textfiles.com, they have a bbs documentary going on, as well as stuff from the old days.

Someday I'd love to have a beer with all you guys n gals and discuss the good and bad times.

loanuniverse

3:42 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first and only site started in 1998 and is still alive today. I used a combination of editors including "frontpage 98", I was never happy with it :(

I recently revived it and have changed a lot on it during the last 6 months. After introducing CSS, I went trhough all 40+ pages and removed about half of their weight in excess code. Frankly, It is finally starting to look like something I like.

axisoftime

5:06 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ah, the memories...

My first was for a college class in '95, pages were composed of 4 frames (header, left nav, content, footer). Ouch.

Yellow, red and gray text on a black background, a big animated gif with an envelope and the word "email" circling the envelope. To separate sections in the content frame, I using the 'ol "line of fire" animated gif. Had an animated gif on the bottom that said best viewed with Netscape, with the rotating "N".

Still, my parents back home were so excited to a see a blurry, distorted picture of me on my "about me" page. Like I was famous or something because there was a picture of me on the web.

carfac

5:33 pm on Apr 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My first site?

A friend of mine who worked at Prodigy kept telling me I needed to put my business on the web. Gave me a free account, and I built a page with the prodigy page builder software. Had my first sale withing a week... just from a apge that said, "Here we are world!" and had my phone number. This was 1994.

Stayed at prodigy for about 6 months, consistently getting 2-3 sales a month. Moved over to my own domain at a local ISP and have never looked back!

Confessions: over the years, I have played with a LOT of things. I have used (some not for very long!)

1) Frames
2) Flashing Text (All of a day!)
3) Pop-Ups (again, a couple days only)
4) Doorway pages
5) Invisible Text

and many other sins.

Never used flash.

I am STILL using a shopping cart I wrote in 1998!

I still use Formmail (very modified) from Matt's Script Archive!

I still enjoy it!

dave

PS: Though I have tried various WYSIWYG editors and all, I still go back to hand-writting code with WebEdit ver 2... I am just at home with that, and I think I have more control!

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