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2:44 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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this is horrible, find latest updates here:

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Columbia was at an altitude of 200,700 feet over north-central Texas at a 9 a.m., traveling at 12,500 mph when mission control lost contact and tracking data.

NASA, while not saying the shuttle had exploded, broken up or crashed, warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous.

There were reports of debris seen falling.

[edited by: amznVibe at 3:09 pm (utc) on Feb. 1, 2003]

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>> Ya, was watching TV in my 3rd grade class when the challenger thing happened...still can't get that image out of my head, either

>> 3rd grade - me, too.

We copied the broadcast about an hour after... surfaced, made a make-shift wreath, observed a moment of silence, and dove again.

8:13 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I hope ebay puts their foot down on all that.

On what? I must be missing something. All I see is typical memorabilia.

8:15 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There us a listing for a tail section from the columbia space shuttle, aparenty not the same one that was used on the recent mission. How the heck does anyone get their hands on stuff like this?
8:21 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Edited the link to ebay stuff, no need to link to there.

Condolences to the relatives and friends.

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They've apparently removed all space shuttle-related domains which were for sale there.

Someone was selling a group of 5 or so for $5,000.00 or "Buy now" for $500,000.00.

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How the heck does anyone get their hands on stuff like this?

You'd be surprised at what some employees had access to.

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Of those items that were for sale on E-bay, if any of them were from this most tragic event, then I hope E-bay co-operates fully with law enforcement agencies in bringing those idiots to trial.

As for being surprised what employees will pilfer from the workplace:

On the macro level, the statistics are stunning:

  • Employee fraud and theft have reached epidemic proportions. Shoplifting alone cost retailers more than $10 billion in 2001, according to the most recent National Retail Security Survey from the University of Florida. The same report states that losses from employee theft have reached record levels and that total inventory shrinkage (a combination of employee theft, shoplifting, vendor fraud and administrative error), cost the nation's retailers $31.3 billion or about 1.7% of annual sales revenues, according to University of Florida criminologist Richard Hollinger, Ph.D., who has directed the National Retail Security Survey for the past 10 years. Employee theft accounted for nearly half the losses, with shoplifting accounting for one-third. That's more than the losses in auto theft, bank robbery and household burglary combined.

  • Back in 1998 Dr. Hollinger was quoted as saying: "While the average shoplifting incident costs the retailer $212.68, an employee theft averages $1,058.20 per incident. A tight labor market and increased consumer spending will compound this escalating problem." It would seem that today, increased consumer spending (particularly credit card purchasing) is at an all time high and the labor market is still rather tight.

  • According to the Better Business Bureau: http*//www.bbb.org/library/employeetheft.asp - Studies by the Department of Commerce, American Management Association and other organizations estimate that employees steal over a billion dollars a week from their unknowing employers.

  • The average annual theft per employee is $218, according to the Fourth Annual Survey of Restaurant and Fast Food Employees, which was released earlier this year and was administered by National Computer Systems (NCS), a global information-services company based in Minneapolis. (December 1999 National Restaurant Association http*//www.restaurant.org/business/bb/1999_12.cfm)

  • One-third of all employees steal from their employers. (Department of Commerce study)
  • The above excerpted from:

    "Self-Compensation As A Response to Underpayment Inequity:
    An Analysis of Other Research Done Into the Causes and Consequences of Underpayment Inequity."

    A project done for my Research Internship completed December 21 2002.

    Pendanticist.

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    The shuttle domains are still there, just sort by newly listed items. Makes me sick to be in the same industry.
    9:00 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    It's time to hang our heads yet again in sorrow...

    >>Makes me sick to be in the same industry.

    ...and yet again in shame.

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    January 27, 1967
    January 28, 1986
    February 1, 2003

    Rest in Peace all brave travelers

    10:15 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    The local news station gave short biographies of the crew members. I shed a tear when I heard Kalpana Chawla's description of earth from space: [uta.edu]

    In the pre-sleep period, when you're looking out the window, you're floating," she said.

    "You see the continents go by, the thunderstorms shimmering in the clouds, the city lights at night. The Nile River looks like a lifeline in the Sahara. And we looked down on Mount Everest. Earth is very beautiful. I wish everyone could see it.

    I don't know why, but that statement really spoke to me.

    2:17 am on Feb 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    I really feel for the families. When someone close dies there is usualy a funeral where you get a chance to lay thay person to rest. After that you start to pick up the pieces. A funeral is almost like a closure. The families of the astronauts will probably never experience the closure and will always be wondering where their loved one is.
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    Millions in India on Saturday mourned the loss of a unique heroine: Kalpana Chawla, the first Indian-born woman in space, who died along with her six peers aboard Columbia.

    [msnbc.com...]

    3:49 am on Feb 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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    OK, this is really scary! Some fool is selling photos of the Columbia breaking up!

    Check out all the folks complaning to ebay. If my link gets pulled, just go the the ebay homepage and click on the Community Tribute to the Astronauts then go to (DISGRACEFUL! No More Columbia Auctions Please!)

    [edited by: Macguru at 2:46 pm (utc) on Feb. 2, 2003]
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