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Compare the s/w industry with the motor industry of 1925 and you probably have a good comparison in terms of maintenance and reliability.
Wow, this is by far the best argument I've heard in a long time. Good thinking man.
I agree with you that the software industry is very dynamic.
However, this is the price M$ has to pay. If they want to launch their products quickly, they should do either one of the following:
1. As I said before, pay an army of hackers to find security gaps.
2. Assume their responsability and do like the auto industry as another member suggested. Do loud recalls. Spend the money that is necessary to inform their faults and solutions. And finally face the charges in the tribunals.
I definitely don't agree with the idea that the means (not properly testing) justify the ends (getting quick to the market). They must be responsible for what they do.
This could have been a lot worse.
Software industry versus the motor industry.
The motor industry spends millions of $$$ in testing a product before it goes on the market, but still in many cases inevitably there are recalls.
The software industry spends millions on developing a product also, but there are more problems in MS software than is desired. If they were in the motor industry business and allowed to continue with business as usual, there would be more accidents on the road than anyone care to imagine.
Software development could do with some of the same stringent guidelines as the motor industry.
It still comes down to us though. If there is a patch get it. If there is a recall take the vehicle to the shop.
jaybee
Cannot access my e-mail and all sites from my ISP are unreachable.
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None of mine in the Far East have returned, and some of my UK sites are out as well.
In fact since this morning only one host has returned out of the whole stack missing.
I'm beginning to wonder whether there will still be substantial holes on Monday when people are back at work.
SQHELL
Look at this link:
[internetnews.com...]
Letīs hope they do what they are saying.
They have only however many employees they have on their payroll trying to patch whatever software problems they've got. However, each and every company with open source software (Apache, Linux, etc.) has every single programmer who uses their software discovering security (and other) problems, then setting about to fix these problems. They've got a greater pool creating patches and updates than M$ does, so of course they've got problems getting fixed at a faster rate.
This definitely does not excuse M$ from putting software on the market before it's been fully and properly tested, but it does provide them a small "cushion" for the amount of time they take in providing fixes and patches for their software problems.
Just my 2-cents.
(And I still don't particularly like M$ products!)
Of course the b*stards choose the weekend. Who's likely to have a not-patched-up-to-the-minute MS server? - smaller set-ups. Who's unlikely to have a server-tech in at weekends?
"Audi Alterum Partum"
One might think the reason for doing the attack over the weekend to have been somewhat good.
Consider this: The attack was staged on the weekend specifically so the business community would not be as affected and more likely to have the repairs made for the beginning of the following business day...Monday.
In other words, the weekend attack was a proving ground of sorts to exhibit the vulnerabilities not patched by system and/or network administrators.
Pendanticist.
I don't think anyone has a handle on who caused this - haven't heard anything other than the fact that the worm is 376 bytes and has been decompiled with lots of people analysing the code.
Who's likely to have a not-patched-up-to-the-minute MS server?
Hmm, up-to-the-minute? Wasn't the patch release like 6 months ago?
I live in New York and heard of the New York minute, but damn, where the heck are you from? :)
lawman
see the msg boards on slashdot, there are some interestig theories on who, why and when.
I did. In a word, Wow!
Pendanticist.
lawman
isn't this ironic?
Look at this link:
[internetnews.com...]Hmmm... This from the internetnews article:
The e-mail comes one year to the day that Gates told employees that they must now make security in Microsoft's products their first priority.This seems more than ironic. If the worm attack was also on the anniversay of the Gates e-mail, which it sounds like it was, then the timing suggests that the attack was a deliberate warning shot.
What gets me is the fact that through most of the worst of the attack the only email I was getting was SPAM! How do they manage it - despite most of the net being overloaded the spammers still managed to get through.
Collusion?
A certain amount of selectivity?
A perceived kinship to Bill Gates?
Things that make you go: "Hmmmmmmmmm." :o
Pendanticist.
A perceived kinship to Bill Gates?
Pendanticist - Not sure exactly how you're meaning this. If I interpret you correctly, I was thinking just the opposite.
If Microsoft were to benefit from this in any way, it would be in their getting ammunition to push through whatever that project was that would put hardware ID codes on everything and have us buy new machines and software.
The timing of this attack, though, makes it more than a huge embarassment and potential hassle for Microsoft. In my opinion, it's a real slap in the face to them.
