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Do Americans have Scooby about Rhyming Slang?

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:40 pm on Apr 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few years ago I worked with a lot of American guys and whenever one of us Jocks used rhyming slang and tried to explain what it meant we found that the Shermans just didn't get the concept.

Do you guys in here know about rhyming slang?
Have you ever had a cup of Rosie Lee?
Do you know anyone who (like me) is a bit mutton?
Do you know what a Brad Pitt is?
Do you like Ruby Murrays in America?
DO you have pair of Callard and Bowsers with a hole in the Sky Rocket?

(Shermans is a more PC version of Septics)

iamlost

12:41 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Suffice to say that we Canadians, being a kinder gentler folk, have no need to disguise our words from authority. We simply smile, agree, and do what we wanted anyway.

Americans don't rhyme they rap. Unfortunately.

Whether descended from 14th century cockeneyes (misshapen eggs looking as if laid by a cock - now that's an image) or ignorant thieving city slickers born within the the sound of Bow-bells (the gospel according to my great-grandfather) you Rhyming Rotters are become that scourge of the web - BH SEOs.

BeeDeeDubbleU wiz blootered ootae his coupon.

iamlost

1:06 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Have you ever had a cup of tea?
Ay would prefer a virgin's piddle.

Do you know anyone who is a bit deaf?
Spek up geezer I cor hear yaouw.

Do you know what a sh*t is?
Some folk ur jist foo ay it.

Do you like curries in America?
Curry an' vindaloo an' juicy birds 'ill chucker.

Do you have pair of trousers with a hole in the pocket?
I prefer a sky rocket stuffed with bangers and mash.

How many Brits, who are not BBC announcers, actually speak English?

MatthewHSE

1:08 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, but then I've always heard that you Brits had to get your humor wherever you could find it... ;)

iamlost, I know very few Americans who rap, although there certainly is that element here. Maybe it's more prevalent in some locations than others. I will say, however, that,

Our national appreciation of poetry
May not be what it ought to be.
But we can write poems in a pinch,
Provided meter can be off an inch.

<groan>

Automan Empire

1:20 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sounded to me like a pastiche of Cockney and Boont. Sorry that widens the field instead of narrowing it.

Lex_Luther

1:27 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well im an American, and I dont have a clue what this thread is about.

grandpa

3:57 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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we found that the Shermans just didn't get the concept
That's quite a concept, but I don't get it. To quote someone else, "What?" I thought you might have been talking about this guy [www2.warnerbros.com].

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:21 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BeeDeeDubbleU wiz blootered ootae his coupon.

and

Some folk ur jist foo ay it.

Iamlost, if you are Canadian I am impressed at yer knowledge o' the west ae Scotland vernacular! (Are you a real Canadian or cheap UK import?)

That's quite a concept, but I don't get it.

Aha! As I thought ... no improvement in comprehension over the last few years then?

Sit back and I'll try to explain. ;)

In the UK some people use what is known as rhyming slang in their everyday speech. This substitutes some words for other words that rhyme with them, often in a humourous (humorous)way.

For example if I say that I am slightly Mutt and Jeff this means that I am a wee bit deaf. (This particular one has been in use so long that it has been corrupted to mutton so if I say that I am a bit mutton then I am a bit deaf).

A Sherman is a term of endearment for an American where sherman tank = yank. (For simplicity we Brits consider all Americans to be yanks no matter what regions they come from). Another less complimentary version of this is "septic tank", as in, "I am going out for dinner with a septic tank tonight."

Why do we do this? Don't ask me but it's fun! None of it is considered offensive and it may just be that as MatthewHSE says, "we Brits had to get our humor (humour) wherever we could find it".

topr8

8:02 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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but i though with rhyming slang you only used the first word in the couplet or is that just here in london :

eg

i fancy a ruby
cup of rosie, luv
allright china?

etc

its much better this way as it totally confuses anyone who doesn't know, if you use the whole cuplet anyone can work it out

rj87uk

8:08 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'll be the childish one then...

I need a Barry White!
Could do with a Tom Hank... (lol)

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:43 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Raymond I know it as a Gladys Knight or just a Gladys or perhaps a Tom Tit. (This is getting a bit crude. Let's change the subject ;) )

Think I'll go down to the rub a dub dub for a Don Revie. Perhaps a few pints of Mick Jagger? Better not have too many. I don't want to get Brahms and Liszt.

:):):)

Iguana

9:58 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Should we suggest to Google that they add rhyming slang to their language interfaces (in the tradition of Klingon and Elmer Fudd).

The two main buttons could be

Google Baptist
I'm Feeling Lexington

(Baptist church/search and Lexington Kentucky/lucky)

trillianjedi

10:04 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Think I'll go down to the rub a dub dub for a Don Revie

Don't forget to collect the Stoke from the artful on the way home.

Syzygy

10:13 am on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Tom Tit, Don Revie, Mick Jagger & Brahms and Liszt? An esteemed but rather aged crowd!

As there's no point being on me Jack Jones, drop your braces and lets go down the nuclear for a few Britney's and a giraffe. It's your shout and mines a Gerry Cottle...

This may sound a load of ol' Jackson Pollocks to you and might get on your Hampton. If so, I'll jump a sherbert to see me Richard and hopefully end up cream crackered... ;-)

AWildman

12:36 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Maybe this is why I didn't completely understand the British version of "The Office"....

:)

BeeDeeDubbleU

12:52 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You mean you didn't have Scooby about what was going on?

[Scooby Doo = Clue]

jdMorgan

1:50 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BDW,

In 1976, our local public television (call sign KERA) arranged to "import" several television shows, and called it their "British Comedy" series. So here in (relatively conservative) Texas, we were able to watch such fare as Monty Python's Flying Circus, The Benny Hill Show, and several others. The Benny Hill Show was full of Cockney rhyming slang, but of course, many of us just thought he was a loony when he went on about "She 'ad her some Bristols was hotter than pistols" or some-such apparent nonsense.

Whenever I'd meet someone from 'across the pond,' I'd ask for a translation of those phrases I could remember from the past few shows, and my appreciation of Benny Hill increased as I came to understand him a bit better (I still think he was a loony, but an inspired one).

Just a few months ago, KERA hosted a "30 years of British Comedy Celebration" at a genuine english pub in north Dallas called The Londoner. Actually, it's a bit too nice to be just a pub, but I wouldn't call it posh. So, along with many of the comedy fans and several of the 20,000 or so british ex-pats in the Dallas area, I attended and had some fish 'n chips and a few pints of Boddington's, while KERA hosted a trivia contest, a "LumberJack Song" sing-along, and a presentation of selected episodes of Monty Python on several hi-definition widescreen tellys (sans penguin). I don't know about the rest of the crowd, but I was sore for several days after as a result of laughing so hard.

At any rate, some of us Shermans know a bit about the rhyming slang as a result of KERA's project, and the several other public television stations that later picked up the same programs. So, if any of you Brits visit Dallas, and fancy a pint, meet me at The Londoner -- I'll have a Vera and Super, thanks, as long as me Trouble doesn't make me pay the Duke and empty me wallet first.

Jim

lawman

4:09 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Americans don't rhyme they rap.

I'm glad you settled that.

Essex_boy

6:43 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ive said this before im sure, with a mate in a shop in Scranton PA, and I looked up and saw the flag of the Union (UK style) and said to my friend theres a Union Jack.

The shop assistant then looked around and thought I was nuts as she thought I was talking about a real person.

Well you had to be there to understand. No you did.

Ok im off up the apples and pears to see uncle Ned.

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:20 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This early?

seth_wilde

8:23 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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They had a bit of the rhyming slang in Oceans 11

Basher (UK Guy): So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in barney.
[His American accomplices pause]
Basher: Barney Rubble.
[His American accomplices look very confused]
Basher: Trouble!

BeeDeeDubbleU

10:19 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Was that the gangster movie? Close the door I'm getting a George Raft.

httpwebwitch

1:52 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This thread reads like an Irvine Welsh novel.
Nae git ootae here, ken?

Kirby

2:05 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Like the scene in "Austin Powers: Goldmember" with Austin and his dad. Took me forever to explain that to my wife.

MatthewHSE

4:59 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I actually find rhyming slang very interesting, though I have to wonder if there aren't even quite a few people who are familiar with it who miss the intended meaning sometimes?

For simplicity we Brits consider all Americans to be yanks no matter what regions they come from

This reminds me of what my brother tells me is the "real" definition of "Yank" or "Yankee" is as you narrow it down. Worldwide, it means an American. In American, it means a New-Englander. In New England, it means someone from Vermont. And in Vermont, it means someone who eats pie for breakfast.

Go figure.

(And here I always thought it was Maine that was so famous for pie, particularly mince.)

rj87uk

9:06 am on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think there was some Rhyming Slang in Snatch - If anyone hasn't seen this - You must! (My best movie).