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Why do we say "imo" or "imho"?

When ultimately everything we say, which is not fact, is "opinion"

     
7:37 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IMO, it's about time we stopped saying IMO.

WYO?

7:59 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why? We say it for those that don't know the difference between fact and opinion ... IMHO ;)
8:24 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I vote for banning IMHO or IMO acronyms from WebmasterWorld.
8:49 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh but if we get rid of IMO and IMHO how will we soften the "I'm-right-you're-wrong-but-I'm-going-to-disclaimer-what-I-say-by-adding-IMO"?
10:35 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"IRYWBIGTDWISBYA"

Obviously!

11:15 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Y'All,

To give an overly-serious answer to a light-hearted question (IMHO, of course), inserting IM[H]O is a way for those amongst us, even on WW, who realise that we are not perfect (yep, it happens), to catch our breath and remind all and sundry that *we* know the difference between opinions and facts and we hope that our enemies will forgive us that difference.

I think that the acid test of a real grown-up discussion is the point where someone says: "We have to agree to differ: I think X and you think Y."

Compare with arguments which descend into [urination] contests and name-calling.

Rgds

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Because the written word lacks inflection.

By the way I say a thing you would understand if it were speculative or not

So with quickly written short comment it is a short way of explaining my intentions.

12:47 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Because the written word lacks inflection.

By the way I say a thing you would understand if it were speculative or not

I always see it as the other way around. I assume that it's speculative, or your opinion or experience, unless you state that it's a fact.

Is it just me that does that?

TJ

1:54 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi TJ,

That makes you either a cynic, or unusually generous: you decide!

Rgds

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2:00 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In truth, probably a cynic. But that's because of the nature of the medium. Anyyone on the internet can be a "publisher", but that doesn't necessarily make them "right".

That's the beauty of forums for me - there is discussion among your peers....

2:23 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>When ultimately everything we say, which is not fact, is "opinion"

It is the way to say a statement is an opinion which may or may not be correct because of the lack of scientific testing.

Many readers take what's read as fact and it is my way of saying I'm making an educated guess instead of presenting my view as fact.

I think it sould be used more often.

2:57 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think it sould be used more often.

Or we should all be a little more cynical?

2:59 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OMHO is wierd, because how often would you actualy say "in my honest oppinion"

IMHO it's somethign rarely used. :)

Mack.

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I have a particualar dislike for IMO and IMHO. I'd far prefer a user to write 'So far as I know', 'based upon my knowledge', or 'In my experience' - whichever is the most appropriate. IMO, IMHO, SOTHERE.
3:07 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>Or we should all be a little more cynical?

Or more demanding on ourselves requiring proof, which I don't think of as cynical.

For the most part we have no idea who is stating what or their level of competence and honesty.

Typically in science all statements are backed by some bibliography qualifications. We aren't going to do that, so the IMHO and some fact vetting on our part is probably the best substitute.

3:18 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For the most part we have no idea who is stating what or their level of competence and honesty.

The "honesty" element here makes an interesting point. Do you think that "IMO" or "IMHO" implies a level of honesty, in that the writer is ensuring that you are fully aware this is opinion and not stated fact?

Personally I also prefer "In my experience" or "On the basis of my research/testing" or similar - at least that gives you the background to the statement as well as qualifying it.

TJ

3:47 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good point TJ.
6:29 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IMHO differentiates between an opinion and that which you claim to know as fact from experience.
8:55 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ok, we can finish this thread now...
9:36 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IMHO!= in my honest opinion
IMHO == in my humble opinion
9:50 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Try this: [google.es...]
3:03 am on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We say IMHO because it's more polite than saying <snip>.

[edited by: lawman at 5:21 am (utc) on Mar. 23, 2006]

7:27 am on Mar 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If I say "<insert name> is a fool", and I get flamed by thousands of webmasters, I can always reply "well, it's just my humble opinion.".

It is very useful for dodging flames. :D

[edited by: lawman at 4:56 pm (utc) on Mar. 25, 2006]

4:42 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IHMO probably releases a great deal of liability. After all we are legally responsible for our posts. Saying what's stated is an opinion and not fact seems wise to me.