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Awaiting my appeal response...
Ben.
You won't have been kicked off for that reason. You probably got kicked off for clicking your own ads from a machine that had been used to access your control panel, or some activity on the site that's against the AdSense TOS.
TJ
Tell me, did you get any warning beforehand? ASA, in his response here [webmasterworld.com], stated that warning shots are normally fired across the bow first, but I haven't heard too many instances of that actually happening.
2odd...
I have read loads of things like this now in the past couple of months, got me thinking about large networks within companies, schools etc that all have the same IP - If someone logged in to adsense from one of these computers to check stats, and a co-worker the other side of the building actually visited the site and clicked on an ad - would google pick this up as fraud - or do they have a way round this?
W.
Google doesn't always close accounts of publishers who have invalid clicks; they discovered invalid clicks on my account once, and on another occasion I wrote them after noticing that my revenue one day was about $1,300 above normal (and yes, that's way above my normal daily figure!). Other publishers have reported getting "invalid clicks" e-mails and surviving the inquisition. I suspect that a number of factors may go into the decision on whether to close an account, such as (a) the amount of revenue the account earns; (b) the publisher's history with AdSense; (c) whether the publisher's topic or audience is more prone to fraudulent clicks (including revenge, nuisance, or "happy" clicks) than average; and whether the case is being reviewed by Happy Hal or Dour Dan.
If I had $1300 extra in one day, I'd keep me mouth shut :p
Google can't kick you out if you done nothing wrong.
If 1300 = way more than normal and way more = lets say 1000, does that mean you earn 300 per day =)
W.
Google can't kick you out if you done nothing wrong.
That's certainly debatable.
Google can pretty much drop a publisher for any reason they choose at the moment, and probably for no reason at all, other than they decided to.
w.
I'm sure Google's "invalid click" detection scheme is a lot more sophisticated than a simple IP-address checker.
Yes, I'm also pretty sure it's likely to be a more complex filtering system. It does seem to be the key element that gets most people kicked from the program though. It's also the one that there is no possible defence to, so likely to be just a boot out without warning email.
That's why it sprang to mind when I read the first post.
Every single thread like this I've read on here has ended up with the initial poster admitting further down the thread that they clicked on their own ads.
That may not, of course, be the case here, in which case it'll be a good opportunity for google to improve their filtering and I'm sure, on "appeal", benflux will be readmitted if he has done nothing wrong.
TJ
What I mean is, they can't kick you out and keep you out if you have not infringed upon any of their regulations.
DaveN
Sure they can. I'm almost positive I read somewhere in their TOS that they can drop you for any reason, at any time.
And in fact it may often make sense to do so. If you don't generate much $$ it may not be worth their time to try and figure out what is going on on your site....
YOU have to provide ROI to THEM......
I got the fraudulent-clicks-detected warning email last month, and I've never clicked an ad myself, so perhaps irock has suggested the mystery cause.
I wrote them after noticing that my revenue one day was about $1,300 above normal (and yes, that's way above my normal daily figure!)
So what did they do? Did they take it away?
perhaps irock has suggested the mystery cause
This is the kind of thing that always seems to materialise at the end of these threads....
Never ever view your control panel on a PC other than your main PC.
TJ
I click on my ad's all the time and I have only been banned twice! and not for clicking my own ads
Why are you openly saying that you are violating their ToS? As stated before, the success of the AdSense program depends on getting rid of fraudulent behavior, and clicking your own ads is fraudulent behaviour under their ToS.
Never ever view your control panel on a PC other than your main PC.
Hmm, crap. I've checked the control panel from lots of different school library computers. Guess I should stop doing that. :/
I click on my ad's all the time and I have only been banned twice! and not for clicking my own ads
nice.
(advertiser here) more and more reason to disable content tageting.....
I click on my ad's all the time and I have only been banned twice! and not for clicking my own ads
If you people think that this loser is serious, think again. Banned twice, yea sure.
If anyone is interested in some land in Florida, sticky me, very cheap.
Believe me, DaveN is not a loser matey
ncw164x
(advertiser here) more and more reason to disable content tageting.....
And all the more reason for demanding that Google provide advertiser controls in the form of include and exclude filters (not unlike the "exclude by domain" filter that publishers already have).
And all the more reason for demanding that Google provide advertiser controls in the form of include and exclude filters (not unlike the "exclude by domain" filter that publishers already have).
yikes! who has the time for that! Our ad appears (near as I can tell) on hundreds of sites.......
Talk about a bad ROI (Investment being time in this case)
If google (and the publishers) want their product (which I am buying) to be valuable they will have to make it so themselves.
If a user clicks 20+ plus ads a day...that user, by default, is a low quality hit.
There is also a lot of bot traffic that could be mistaken as humans. I often get hit by malformed spiders and bots that download my entire site (ignoring robots.txt...). Such programs click on every single link on the site. So far, they have not hit the java script ads...but we should never underestimate the stupidity of spiders.
Reading this thread, I might make a program that limits the number of pages a user can view on my site. I would hate to get booted from Google because some bozo is copying my site with a malformed derivative of frontpage.
Looking through the clicks that come in from my adword program, I notice I get a large number of repeat IPs. Most of the IPs are from AOL, COX or UUNET. I assume that these are proxy servers. If Google does tracking by IP, I would consider this a good argument for getting a dedicated IP for your primary client.
