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Could you give me some guidelines : what I need , what I should do to earn $30 a day.
I have two sites. one I have just uploaded is a free article sumission directory.
and watch ur account
Traffic, and adsense page optimization. Experiment, move the code, blend it, make it stand out etc.
Let's presume you have a 1% page CTR (which is OK).
Let's say the average click is 0.10 USD. (which is OK, but really depends on your niche. If it's a general niche, 0.10 is a good estimate).
You would need 300 clicks per day, to earn 30 USD.
To have 300 click per day (viewing the above scenario), you will need to have 30.000 adsense impressions, per day.
uploaded is a free article sumission directory
Honestly...I would spend too much time on this sort of thing. If it's free, that means 1000's of others are using the same free script...
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You can use adwords to bring in some traffic ... its cost is as low as 1 cent per clickWorking wonders for me.
what does google do when it sees your name in a bunch of publisher's competitive ad filters? i hope they don't take a close look at your site.
just speculation, but i think you may be heading toward dangerous waters.
And with decent content you have no need to advertise.
just speculation, but i think you may be heading toward dangerous waters.
If you read through the AW and AS forums, plenty of people have used AdWords to drive traffic to their sites, and ASA has never said it wasn't legal (I believe it's even one of the AW pages on the official AW site that AW is a good way to increase your site's exposure).
Google has no problem with this (if they did, they could easily determine offending sites, by simply comparing AW and AS accounts).
Where many people get into trouble, is that it appears after a time that you get diminishing returns - i.e. less and less traffic visiting and or less clicks (or to put it another way, if you solely rely on AS, you could find your AW costing more than you are making in AS.
There have been a few success stories, but they appear to be far and few between. Consider AW to be another expense in getting traffic to your site, but more importantly, make the site worth bookmarking for that traffic.
Need a bigger filter. I have NEVER seen a PSA on my pages.
Any site that gets its traffic via advertising and that has no natural attraction is just a waste of space. It ads nothing, and splits the finite advertisers budjet. I have no wish to share with any freeloaders!
I already ignore sites that I come across that are obviously crap content but stuffed with ads. The average surfer will start to do the same.
Today I paid out 9.35 for 436 clicks. Many do return, according to my logs.
i never said that adwords-adsense was illegal... but if the strategy even works, then you probably need to set up a pretty worthless site with nothing more than ads.
The AW -> AS model pays off with publicizing newer sites, or if you are not ranking very highly for your keywords (i.e. you're in the sandbox).
If you have a good site, I think it's worth it spend the money and get new visitors, because if it's truly good, they'll come back, and more imporantly, they will (hopefully) spread the word. Unfortunately that's hard to measure.
I don't think it's viable as in "I spend $30 on AW a day, but get $50 in AS", because I think you'd be better off on spending the $30 on new content, which will keep paying off over the year(s). A well-written article will get more people than you could buy with AW.
I've seen too many people who come crying into other forums saying "I spent all this money on AW, but didn't make it back", and only a handful who have made it work (and I wonder, as you do, if they are running MFA sites).
Think of AW as taking an ad out in the paper about a new brick-and-mortar store. Don't expect it to pay off instantly, or in an easy to measure way. When brick-and-mortar stores run ads, their primary goal is to get you in the door. If they don't have anything useful, you'll not come back and you won't mention the store to anyone (or if you do it's negatively).
By buying traffic you are no different to any mfa.
By recirculating visitors to yet more ads you are giving google yet more of a cut too!
Feeding targeted traffic to a site for whatever reason is always a good idea if it can profit you in some way. Strategic advertising has traditionally been part of growing a business. The rules haven't changed.
Yeah....Google still has those "free" serps as a mechanism for it AdSense publishers to maximize its click revenue.
"If you skip all the other Ads we offer we still want a bite at the cherry on every other offering".....it is only good business!
$30 a day is easy to achieve if you offer AdSence from good free serps.....that is how the business model was designed.
Sometimes (often) you can do better with direct merchant partners instead, but, if the sector doesn't have good direct merchant partners then AdSense is certainly a good place to go to fill the gap.
Every time I try removing all the filtered sites (those that dont sell anything directly) my income falls rapidly to about half. Tried this several times for a week at a time. It costs me about 500 dollars a week in lost revenue. So I dont think its ever worth having ANY site ads that display anything else other than a real end user that is trying to sell a product or service directly.
No amount of tricks or buying cheap ebay sites, or MFAs etc will work. Especially in the long term.
Not everyone can write a best seller or even a magazine article...
If you are advertising with adsense on your site (even at a loss - Martinbuster) then google get TWO cuts of the advertisers limited budget. And I have to share my half of whats left with the other site! This also ignores the fact that adsense clickers soon wont! They do not like going to a link only to find another set of ads. People will just start clicking the back button as I do now.
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i have thousands visitors days and make many $ is not easy... :-(
Take a good look at what you are offering!
I get thousands daily from forums and links on other sites, newsgroups etc. All natural traffic linking to good content.
Because of the link popularity I also get 5 thousand or so from the likes of google search etc. Search engines ALSO like sites that lots of people want to link to!
last month i reached 35000 visitors (these numbers are not hits but real IP visitors) in one day, this day i made +/- $80 for +/- 2000 clicks, is a exception!
My website is open since march 2000
but if you have adsense on the site your motive is not sales but the same as mine. Clicks.
You maybe shocked that websites don't get an instant, massive influx of visitors simply because they are up and running, but it's true!
By buying traffic you are no different to any mfa.
They are spending money on advertising to get people physically into their store, and are hoping to build mindshare - that when people need whatever, that they will come back because they got a good deal at the store.
I'm spending money to get people to a new website. I'm looking at them bookmarking the site, posting about it elsewhere, emailing it to other people.
I don't want to spend AW money to get instant AS clicks, that defeats the whole purpose in my mind (and because of that, and because of smartpricing, I doubt I will run the two at the same time in the future when I'm building up a new site's traffic).
That's not to say that peoplel aren't spending AW money to get AS clicks - they've posted about it many times here and in the AW forums, but I don't believe that's a viable model for most websites for several reasons, and that gets into an area where you and I both agree falls into the MFA realm.
