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message from Google re: October payments

delayed due to Thanksgiving holiday in US

         

pelican

12:01 am on Dec 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi all...

Wanted to post part of the message I received back from Google regarding payments for those interested:

<Woz> Apparently there are slight delays for October payments as a result of the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday.</Woz>

So hopefully we'll all have our checks soon and in time for the holidays :-)

[edited by: Woz at 12:09 am (utc) on Dec. 2, 2003]
[edit reason] Paraphrased Email Quotation, see TOS. [/edit]

Kinitz

7:56 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm sure Google will pay

Just for the record: if Google finds out that somebody (doesn't matter who) caused fraudulant clicks on your website then it cancels your account and is not paying anything it owed you by the time of cancelation. In other words: if somebody would cause fradulant clicks on your website today, you will not get paid for October (and not for November and not for December for that matter).

"will pay" is therefore quite relative term...

level80

8:36 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've just read this rather worrying line in the Google Adsense Terms & Conditions (Section 12 - Payment) :-

"Google may change its pricing and/or payment structure at any time."

IanCP

8:49 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Google may change its pricing and/or payment structure at any time."

Of course, it has always been open ended, a modern one sided contract.

You could in fact be receiving 0.01% of gross revenue and never know, I personally don't think that is the case.

I've always "assumed" the old 70/30 split where you receive the 70%, but then who knows? Why secrecy?

The sad fact is that ultimately these "secretive" provisions will ultimately be challenged in courts of competent jurisdiction and perhaps damages will ensue.

Why do younger people think they can re-write law? Modern commercial law evolved over hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. Old law still holds great sway in courts. It's called the "Law of Precendence". It's since been improved by Statute Law.

Sunflux

8:51 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just for the record: if Google finds out that somebody (doesn't matter who) caused fraudulant clicks on your website then it cancels your account and is not paying anything it owed you by the time of cancelation.

All very true. However, I'm sure that this "bad faith" policy will be challenged legally at some point in the future, if or when Google decides to unfairly cancel payments to someone large enough or owed enough.

UKFord

8:54 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Big company, with **** communications. That's Google.

whizkiddo

9:17 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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does this mean that chqs will always be delivered late. say they mail this one on the 9 th (hope its before that), then will it always be the 9th or from next month it will back to 28..29 so we get the cheques in the first week of the new month?

RobbieD

9:21 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If Google withheld payments from us for a 2-3 month period we would most definitely take legal action. It would be great press if anything. Google might be very large but with good lawyers you never know what the outcome could be. I think that all of this is happening at the wrong time, with the Florida Update, most people just have a bad taste in their mouth for Google.

Maybe we'll all get a Google Bonus for Christmas :)
or
Let's really worry if there is no check by Christmas...

IanCP

9:35 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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does this mean that chqs will always be delivered late. say they mail this one on the 9 th (hope its before that), then will it always be the 9th or from next month it will back to 28..29 so we get the cheques in the first week of the new month?

No.

That is well outside the stated terms.

I assume Google has the integrity to follow their stated terms.

anxvariety

9:42 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Maybe they're cooking the books for a late christmas feast (IPO).

getvisibleuk

10:07 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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it's only a couple of days late

- nope - 5! a couple = 2.

mayor

11:09 am on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> Google has the integrity

Hungry class action lawyers out there have a way of nudging companies with deep pockets to operate with integrity.

shrirch

3:07 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Reading this amuses me ... for the simple reason that the PR side of Google claims to follow the Cluetrain manifesto and yet there are 100s of thousands of webmasters who are left wondering what went wrong.

[webmasterworld.com...]

My bets.... someone lost the checkbook during the move.

[edited to point out that I'm not calling GG the PR side of Google... was pointing in the random direction of the 'plex]

jabberwookie

6:00 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i heard google's delaying payment due to massive click fraud

panic

6:03 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i heard google's delaying payment due to massive click fraud

Did you hear that from people at Teoma? :P

whizkiddo

6:12 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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was wondering how long before the rumor mills start churning "massive click fraud". whats next...G is broke?

dazzlindonna

6:42 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just went back through the old posts to see when Google updated the earnings page last time around. It was on the 6th. So, its not unusual that we haven't seen it posted yet this month. The checks really might be on the way, whether it is posted on the site or not.

getvisibleuk

7:03 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"I just went back through the old posts to see when Google updated the earnings page last time around. It was on the 6th."

Well mine updated on the 29th! - 7 days earlier!

jim_w

10:56 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'll bet the next check will be late also because of the next holiday.

tombola

11:03 pm on Dec 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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whizkiddo:

whats next...G is broke?

Yeah, after "Google is broken", "Google is broke". ;-)

ddent

8:11 am on Dec 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is the part that gets me: They had all of November to pay... its not as though the thanksgiving holiday lasts the entire month :).
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