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3:09 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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50% less "money" comparing with 3 last months. Same traffic, same statistics but less and less earnings. Did you notice the same thing?
4:45 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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same thing here
4:45 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Read up on Smart Pricing.

It is a Google invention that gives advertisers a discount based on many factors. One being the amount your site converts for advertisers.

Everyone loves it and is perfectly content with it. We embrace Smart Pricing harmoniously whilst singing songs of joy and glee :/

6:28 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My AdSense EPC is down 50% since Halloween.

On the AdWords side, where my company's ads run in 2nd or 3rd position and see CTRs as high as 20%, my daily spend is going up, not down.

More for G; less for me.

At least Chitika is going off the hook. At this rate I'll drop AS altogether in a week or so if things don't pick up.

6:29 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i went from more than 800 a day to little more than 100.
10:21 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Plummeted!
10:38 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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this happens once and awhile and usually it picks back up.

G have also been making changes to AdWords system - the new AdWords tools look to be really good... new tools always shakes thing's up as publishers play around with them.

We had a big drop in eCPM and CTR last few days - what we did was block a few advertisers and eCPM and CTR went back up...

i read that Smart Pricing is calculated weekly... so a big drop after 3 months wouldn't be due to smart pricing? unless it's calculated weekly and every quarter they impliment a bigger slider change.

more likely that publishers are using new tools and that is shaking up the system... will take a little time for G to recalculate the best performing ads and thing's will get back to normal...

10:53 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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my earnings have gone down too, had a great middle of october but there was a decline towards the end, and this month is no better :(
11:07 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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50% less "money" comparing with 3 last months. Same traffic, same statistics but less and less earnings. Did you notice the same thing?

Welcome to the Adsense roller coaster!

Adsense / Adwords and Google serps are always jiggling thing about, advertisers budgets and campaigns shift around like nobody's business, publishers statistics & income goes up and down like a tart's knickers.

There are so many factors about adsense / adwords we can't control, so the best way is to hold tight and ride out the bumps.

There are some things you can control:-

Your site's content. Is it added to on a regular basis, are you building links with simliar quality sites and promoting your site?

If the ads are not targetted well, could you be changing the text on your page to improve targetting, or use the targetting tool?

Are your site's banner over-run with made for adsense (MFA) sites? If so, you may consider experimenting with blocking them - despite Google's placement of them, they aren't good payers. They *might* have a reasonable ctr elsewhere on the network, and they *might* be targetting your keywords - hence placement. BUT that doesn't mean they are the best payers - their business model dictates that they can't be.

11:09 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had my worst day for a looong time....the problem is non english websites don't have much of a choice...
11:52 am on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had my worst day for a looong time....the problem is non english websites don't have much of a choice...

New adsense tos does not allow adsense on non supported language websites, is yours a "supported language"?

12:01 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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2 days in a row STEEP decline.
12:07 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes Petra my site is in a supported language. What meant was that in smaller markets (ie. non english) you don't have alternatives to adsense...
12:12 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Two days isn't really long enough to indicate a trend of decline.

Perhaps advertisers are getting ready for Christmas campaigns. Maybe some budgets ran out at the end of October.

Keep working on great content and spend less time worrying about small shifts in revenue. Sleep at night :)

12:14 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site last 2 days have record-high EPC and eCPM...

I also just started using channels, and optimized my site a bit.

12:33 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Keep working on great content and spend less time worrying about small shifts in revenue.

Yeah, fine! But I am talking BIG shifts in revenue!

6:35 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When I was coming home, I was shocked by my Saturday stats.

but when I read this threat, I feel like at a big accident, where I have recieved only some scratches and some lacerate clothes, while the others are brought away to the intenisve station of the hospital.

My eCPM is compared with October 18% down.

6:51 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No, steady as a Swiss watch here;
the full 5 bucks today.
A burger, anyone?
6:52 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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dzcap wrote:
>2 days in STEEP decline

One publisher's "steep" is another publisher's normal, because things always go up and down, and you are bound to have a couple of down days occasionally. Could you define "steep", in particular by reading... [webmasterworld.com...] ...then saying how many standard deviations you are from your average.

7:13 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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earnings per day have increased from $ 75 to $ 120 since November 1st, haven't changed anything on my site and traffic is steady.
7:44 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My average and standard deviation is about the same, what does that mean?
8:22 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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dzcap wrote:
>My average and standard deviation is about the same, what does that mean?

Well, it might mean that you have what is called a "skewed distribution". But as most Adsense business is similar, I suspect a more likely explanation is that your earnings are quite low and unreliable. Rather than being a steady stream of income each week, it is little more than like buying a lottery ticket.

If that's the case, a useful strategy to develop your site might be to invest in more content, to build up a lot more traffic. Or if you have a lot of traffic already (thousands of visitors per month as a minimum) then you need to find ways of getting a much higher and more reliable click through for your adverts - eg: by looking at the Google hotspots and experimenting with those.

9:17 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Earnings have dropped from $3000+ a day, to ~$1000 a day, not good really.
9:57 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MyGen wrote:
>Earnings have dropped from $3000+ a day, to ~$1000 a day, not good really

Wasn't it only a month ago that you were celebrating earnings going up from $1000 a day to $3000 a day? And that after only 3 months or so of Adsense?

10:11 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Earnings have dropped from $3000+ a day, to ~$1000 a day, not good really

How do You make $1000 a day by showing

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10:19 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How do You make $1000 a day by showing

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He might be having temporary techical problems. I get "Cannot find server".

1:22 am on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yea, me too getting "cannot find server" alternately with correct site display.

if this is your only income stream and assuming you put to flight an enourmous amount of users this way, you must have an incredible count of visitors.
let me guess.. to generate about 2000$/day it must be at least 5 million uniques a month?
should i say whow or should i rather.. LOL
just curious..

1:47 am on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The best thing one can do is to manually check all the ads out, and try to locate the MFA sites. It stands to reason that sites which are not selling tangible goods or services are likely not going to pay too well.

There is a lot of disinfo about not putting too many ads in the URL filter; the main criticism being that it will likely reduce the number of availible ads. This may have been true in the past, but now, there is no shortage of advertisers in most niches. Filtering the MFA/scraper ones just makes good sense.

Too bad Google doesnt allow the publisher to filter by keyword as well, *and* give us more feedback/data to help us improve conversions for legitimate advertisers. These two things would go a long way to making things better for all of us, and worse for the parasites in the system.

1:53 am on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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looks like MyGen gets a fair bit of traffic:
119,055 visits per day, according to "statbrain".
3:47 am on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The ad filter does have an impact... we had 200 sites listed in filters - when our eCPM took a hit - we deleted all the filtered sites and our eCPM jumped up... snd stayed up - 3 months later the eCPM dropped again... we started adding filters (MFA sites + others we had filtered before) and eCPM went back up...

If you use channels you can see where the eCPM is down - look there and you will usually find irrelevant ads / MFA sites and big brands people have been overexposed to and they no longer click them.

It also depends on how many repeat visitors you get - if you have a high repeat visitor rate then blocking / unblocking ads will shuffle your ads a bit and serve "fresh" more interesting ads that may not yet have had smart pricing applied to them...

something to consider: we run only 1 ad rectangle... if you run more than 1 then your results will probably vary a lot more...

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