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php to htm and Variables with Google

Site indexing advice given Googles alleged better handling of php

         

googalot

9:36 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hi All,

I have over 200 sites with over 3000 MySQL database driven php base pages. The base pages are getting added to the google index within 1-4 days of publication however none of the additional pages are getting added or in the rare occurence that one of them is it is displayed with just the title for a while before dropping out of the index. My PR is also not getting passed through. I am seriously considering using a mod-rewrite to remove the variables from the URLS to see if this solves my problem. Before I do this however I want to be absolutely sure that I cant get them indexed by changing the H1 tags on the additional pages so they are not identical to the base page.

Current format: (htm parsed as php, title altered so that consecutive pages display page numbers for uniqueness e.g. Page 1 of 136)

e.g. foo.com/brand-sex-Style-product.htm?items=0

Base page
widgets.com/Willywonka-Mens-Golden-Chocbars.htm?items=0
Title: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars - Page 1 of 136
H1: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars

Additional page:
widgets.com/Willywonka-Mens-Golden-Chocbars.htm?items=12
Title: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars - Page 2 of 136
H1: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars

Would changing the H1 content to match the title page number affect a pages ability to get indexed? At present the H1 content on consecutive pages is identical and I am assuming that even though the entire page content is different and the Title is different, The matching H1 content is causing google to see the pages as duplicates.

Also I am hesitant to mod-rewrite the URLS for two reasons:

1. Have just undergone a major operation to move over 200 brands onto thier own websites and have already bitten the page moving bullet traffic wise even though permanent redirects were set on all pages.

2. Have spent two days looking for a mod-rewrite example or instructions for this format and have failed dismally :)

If only the base pages are included in google less than 1/100th% of my content is :(

Any advice is highly appreciated.

vincevincevince

1:01 pm on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



1 - sitemap ;-)
2 - yes, use different title and h1 tags as much as possible
3 - one argument certainly won't hurt
4 - ensure you have some internal linking to keep leading googlebot inward?
5 - if you add &filter=0 to the google search url - can you see the internal pages?

googalot

7:41 pm on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thanks VinceVinceVince for taking the time to reply :),

1 - sitemap ;-)
In place of a site map I have top level Pages linking in to each minute product category organisation. This is the only way I can conceive writing a sitemap while honoring googles recommended 100 link per page limit. These Pages are all interlinked.

2 - yes, use different title and h1 tags as much as possible.
Thanks will get onto that today :)

3 - one argument certainly won't hurt
That's what I thought

4 - ensure you have some internal linking to keep leading googlebot inward?
The sites are more linked up than cape canaverel with all links being complimentary. i.e matching brand loops, matching product loops, matching style loops, matching sex loops(men's, women's, e.t.c) and <prev +10 (This page) +10 next>

5 - if you add &filter=0 to the google search url - can you see the internal pages?
No this makes no change. However as sods law would have it, after writing the original message google came though and started listing a limited number of additional pages. Though a very limited number.

I will change all the H1 tags and see how it goes from there.

All the best, Googalot

googalot

10:40 pm on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Have changed all pages ass follow;

e.g. foo.com/brand-gender-Style-product.htm?items=0

Base page
widgets.com/Willywonka-Mens-Golden-Chocbars.htm?items=0
Title: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars - Page 1 of 136
H1: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars Page 1

Additional page:
widgets.com/Willywonka-Mens-Golden-Chocbars.htm?items=12
Title: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars - Page 2 of 136
H1: Willywonka Mens Golden Chocbars Page 2

Will report back in a week with google indexing update.