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PHP 5 economics vs PHP 4

is PHP 5 feasible cosidering the cost of Zend Platform

         

Namaste

10:33 am on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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We all know that Zend has severely limited the free Zend Engine bundled with PHP 5 & PHP 4. In order to get great performance from PHP one needs a seperate optimizer and an accelerator.

The ZEND PLATFORM (their optimizer & accelerator suite) costs $750/processor/year. There is a shortage of alternative optimizers and accelarators with eAccelarator's [64.233.161.104] development on hold.

Further, there are NO ALTERNATIVE optimizers and accelerators available for PHP 5.

PHP 4 has some optimizers and accelerators available and Zend Optimizer is also free.

Thus does it make sense to migrate to PHP 5 given the huge cost of $750/processor/year?

coopster

3:22 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In order to get great performance from PHP one needs a seperate optimizer and an accelerator.

Says who? ;)

No accelerators, no optimizers, no templates, no caching. ... and smoking fast.

bcolflesh

3:26 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Namaste

4:35 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No accelerators, no optimizers, no templates, no caching. ... and smoking fast.

how how, please do tell.

eAccleraator is the inheriotor of TruckMMCache

jatar_k

5:51 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>> No accelerators, no optimizers, no templates, no caching. ... and smoking fast.

coop's my hero

I had to add something extra so that I could me too coopster's above quote, so here

No accelerators, no optimizers, no templates, no caching, no objects. ... and smoking fast.

freeflight2

6:22 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As long as your box is not CPU bound you don't need any pre-compilers but for high traffic sites they can be quite cost saving.
To serve 1/4B page views per month (forums, blogs, galleries, ...) I need 8 dual xeon webservers running php4+eaccelerator. Without eaccelerator or similar it would be about 18 of them.
PHP5 has some nice improvements in regards to OO. If you don't need that (yet) stick to PHP4. (it probably will look completely different in a couple months)

Namaste

7:08 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That's what I thought. Good to confirm it here.

Are there any substitutes for PHP Intelligence [zend.com]

How does eAccelarator compare to Zend Optimizer?

How does Zend Optimizer compare to Zend Performance (part of Zend Platform)?

This strategy of Zend's is throwing up a lot of questions about the cost effectiveness of PHP. What is emerging is that Zend has INTENTIONALLY kept the Zend Engine weak inorder to charge exorbidant amounts for software that makes PHP run the way IT SHOULD.

freeflight2

8:43 pm on Sep 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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eaccelerator/mmcache is faster than zend.

chrisjoha

7:18 am on Sep 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know an accelerator that will work with PHP 5.0.4 (on windows)? From what I read eAccelerator is not making much progress these days and people are having problems with mmCache/PHP5.

Namaste

7:47 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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there is no known cache engine yet for PHP5 other than Zend Platform