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Scott Blum, Buy.com, goes after bad ad clicks

         

msgraph

1:29 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Scott Blum, founder, chairman and CEO of Buy.com, is trying to patent a solution to click fraud and bot generated clicks. As mentioned in various other forums recently, merchants both large and small, are calling for search engines and other ppc advertisement companies to take action. It is interesting to see that one large retailer has stepped up to the plate to offer a solution for the ongoing problem of bad advertisement clicks.

The solution is quite simple and not groundbreaking yet could cause an extra step for the user to take in order to properly land at their destination. Basically the solution is to offer the user some sort of security measure such as interim landing pages provided either by the ad company or retailer. The user will then need to enter a security code or perform certain key/mouse actions to proceed.

One problem with the pay-by-click fee structure for price engines and other forms of Internet advertising is justifying a fair price to the advertising purchaser. This particularly arises in instances where clicks are not generated by legitimate consumers or legitimate "window" shoppers. When this occurs, there are clicks generated that do not serve the advertising purpose of the pay-by-click fee, incurring unfair expense to the advertiser. Such phantom clicks also impair accurate tracking or advertising success and market measurement. They also can lead to disputes between the advertising sellers and the retailer advertising purchasers over the number of real clicks, for which a pay-by-click fee is owed and the number of illegitimate or phantom clicks. In this description, clicks generated by sources other than legitimate consumers or "window" shoppers are called "phantom" clicks.

There are numerous sources of this problem of phantom clicks. One source is automated programs or systems known as web-crawlers, spiders, Internet robots or colloquially "bots". These are automated systems or software programs that are operated to gather data via the Internet. For example, search engine companies such as Google are known to operate automated systems that gather Internet data via clicking on links to discover and compile databases of Internet websites and data. Other sources of phantom clicks are notorious, such as from disgruntled individuals, disgruntled suppliers or competitors seeking to raise advertising expenses by clicking and causing pay-by-click advertising costs.

[0012] In an embodiment of the present invention, an interim landing page is provided by the retailer or a referring website, rather than a direct landing page as heretofore used to generate click counts. Passage through the interim landing page is required in order to gain access to the retailer's advertised web page. In order to pass through, a particular operation is required by a user or customer. Preferably, the operation cannot be performed by automated web access systems such as web-crawlers, spiders or bots.

[0013] One example of an access operation required on an interim landing page is entry of a security access code known to the user or consumer. The security access code can be provided via print advertising, other communication technique, another web page, or on the interim landing page itself. Any access code can be required, such as numbers, letters, other symbols or combinations thereof. If provided on the interim landing page, preferably the access code is provided in a graphical format, for which automated reading and understanding is not possible, or is difficult, time consuming or prone to error.

The patent is brief and simple to read:

Internet commerce access security system and method [appft1.uspto.gov]

BigAl

2:47 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Great info but that solution will flop.

otc_cmnn

9:24 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'd opt out of this as an advertiser.

I don't like to make my users take an extra step and will surely loose sales from this extra step. people will move down further un the serps and click on the others.

I'd rather pay for the crappy clicks and lower my bids - let the balance come there.

Bad Idea - IMHO.

treeline

10:01 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Back Button

This will also solve the problem of having visitors.

Make it hard for your customers. Then at least you know the few who make it through are determined.

jeffpq

12:10 am on Apr 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Haha, I love to hear about Buy.com, my office is about 100 yards from theirs... =p~

mike schmitz

2:48 am on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think instead of having to type in a code to gain access, the user should instead have to read a paragraph about the product and then answer a few questions to make sure they read the paragraph and are really wanting to view thew item on buy.com or other retailer. Than even if they answer all the questions correctly, an alert window should pop up that says "Are you sure you want to visit Buy.com?". If they click yes a final alert window pops up and says "Are you going to buy something?". If they click yes, then they are taken to the retailer.

After all, that only seems fair.

jdMorgan

3:19 am on Apr 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Using interstitial pages on the PPC provider's site which set and check an encrypted cookie, and then immediately redirect to the advertiser's site might help without being too intrusive. The 'click validation' obviously has to be done by the provider, so that only legitimate clicks are counted or forwarded. I agree with the consensus here that all the rest of that just seems to be an incentive to hit the Back button.

Most 'bots don't accept cookies, and if they do, they can be tracked. The encryption on the cookie is needed to prevent tampering with the cookie to enable automated clicking, and that encryption would have to be quite sophisticated and change often.

Jim