Kanoodle Poor Traffic?

Analyzed traffic from Kanoodle and no wonder it's not converting...

[spetracco]

I've been advertising on Kanoodle for several months. My statistics weren't matching up to their clicks, and I finally got that sorted out. But still no conversions, despite twice as much traffic as Google. So I started looking at some of the partners I was getting traffic from.

This one stands out more than anything else. www.fortunecity.com - any broken link results to a randomly-pulled page from Kanoodle. No one browsing the fortunecity.com website who clicks a broken link is likely to be interested in my educational toys.

What kind of scam are they running? Is this fraudulent/sleazy or just poor quality control?

I've disabled my account. This is ridiculous...I feel like these guys owe me several hundred dollars. :)

[GameMasterM]

I have yet to read a comment from anyone that was completely satisfied with a second tier PPC advertising campaign. I read once that a FindWhat client experienced decent conversions. :-)
These complaints are so common you have to believe there is a huge problem out there.
I am glad I stick with Adwords.

[Vicky Chlamydia]

Kanoodle, Search123, ePilot, GoClick, Findology have a bunch of affiliates sending robotic clicks. Also, monitor FindWhat - they have a lot of affiliates sending robotic clicks from the sites that do not exist with IP's from Bangladesh, Russia...
Good Luck!
Cheers!
Lauren

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[Tropical Island]

despite twice as much traffic as Google

DUH!

[spetracco]

Whether true or not - FindWhat released a statement that they were discontinuing practices leading to low-performing traffic such as this. Whether or not to be believed... :)

Regardless, glad to know I'm not alone with Kanoodle. I've suspended my account there and I'm expanding my ads on Google.

Thanks.

[JerryOdom]

Nobody ever has anything positive to say about Kanoodle. I guess they're only in business because new people are out there trying things out and they rob them of a few dollars before they head over to Adsense.

[spetracco]

Actually, a colleague and sometimes-client of mine recommended them, because he was getting good conversions. Or so he said. Go figure.

[robotsdobetter]

I have seen Kanoodle ads on guestbooks with nothing but spam. My statistics is also not matching up to their clicks that they said came to my site. I suggest you go to Overture (Or should I call it Yahoo Overture?) or Google.

[Bodyguard]

I thought Kanoodle got bought up? They were good at one time, but I signed up to this £10 free clicks, and no conversions. Okay, I know advertising doesn't guarantee results, but I expect a few enquiries at least.

Seems like more and more are complaining against kanoodle. What does that say about them......

Explanations from kanoodleguy doesn't help, refunded clicks don't help. hmmmmmmmmm.

I would have thought that any business that got that many complaints would do something about it.

What gives?

[wdestefano]

This is so ironic reading this. The reason that I am here is that I just got off the phone with Kanoodle regarding a campaign that I just ran.

I had over 111 "clicks" and a total of 120 page views. I spent 50 for a bunch of click fraud.

The lady on the phone says that when you use generic terms you can expect few page views. I explained that the term web hosting is very targeted and the visitor should spend more than 3 seconds on the site.

Basically I'm writing this off as a lesson learned. I have had the same results with FindWhat.com and Adwords just costs a fortune for competitive keywords related to web hosting.

Any input on a decent PPC search engine or alternate methods of driving targeted traffic?

[watchthis]

I investigated this and I found out they have no standards. I found that they had an affiliate who owned Seek99.com. When i went to alexa to check on their affiliates there were some interesting reviews which indicated and gave evidence that this engine is built on 100% fraud.Now im pretty sure that Kanoodle have seen this and if they have, they have done nothing to stop it.
Im new to online advertising. Infact ive only tried Adwords from google so far, but Ive looked into all the alternatives (cause adwords is too expensive for me), read what you and others have said and then looked into it further and found shocking facts that in my opinion are nothing more than theft. Hence I refuse to trust such organistations with my money.

[Bodyguard]

Ripping off customers and forming questionable partnerships does not a good business make. hehe

It's such a shame web engines need to work in this way, as if they did it right before, surely they'd be better off in the long run.

Kanoodle has had very bad press written about them, been talked about on various forums, articles and sites. So I'm shocked that many still pay them again and again.

Is it the end for Kanoodle?

[robotsdobetter]

Is it the end for Kanoodle?

There are always new webmasters that have no idea about this, but they will learn.

[Bodyguard]

I've just seen this:

>>webmasterworld of Search Conference Sponsored in Part by Kanoodle<<

[1milehgh80210]

From what I've experienced- and read around here- all these 2nd & 3rd tier PPC's are rip-offs. Maybe some are getting rich off them and aren't bragging?, but doubt it.
If you are in a competitive area, think about some creative OFFLINE ways to market your business.

[GameMasterM]

It is a leap of faith to suggest an entire business is based on fraud. Lot's of crying on the PPC forums but it really comes from only a few loud complainers. I use AdWords but I would use Kanoodle if I had reason and I would expect not to convert as well as I do with Google.
The internet has a Beverly Hills and a Compton. A good business sells all over town but there is more quality ($) foot traffic in the wealthier areas.
Kanoodle/FindWhat/ePilot/Contextweb bring your business to the other side of town. If you don't want to be represented there don't advertise there.

[watchthis]

I disagree not all are rip offs.
7search seems quite fair (and i know this from colleages who have advertised with them), as does searchfeed (from what people have been saying) and search123(which im actually doing well with 2 days into using it).

Strange though Kanoodle has such a good alexa rating, but seems so rubbish quality at the same time. Are they just built 100% on fraud?

[watchthis]

GameMasterM not to be rude but Kanoodle dont deserve any respect. Go to www.alexa.com and read the reviews on Seek99.com
Now kanoodle gives them a feed inspite of this information, which is quite strongly true as such comments are abundant on the web.
I wish kanoodle was good as its prices are low, but im afraid thats not the truth. If you want your money to be stolen then try them. Everyone here cant not be wrong you know.

[GameMasterM]

I will defer to your experiences with them. Good luck to you, no offense intended.

[watchthis]

None taken. If anything I was unduly harsh to you, for which I appologise.
If you want to try them go ahead, but when you come back here and complain, I shall say I told you so.

[GameMasterM]

I do not intend to try them. I am happy with AdWords. I will try Ingenio's pay per call once AOL begins accepting the ads. I am considering FindWhat's pay per call product now that I am seeing the ads in Google SERPs.

[Bodyguard]

Anyone know what the company Kanoodle is currently roughly worth. ie - purchase price?