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I learned CSS about 4 years ago the first time, hated it, and never saw the benefit...
I was hooked...on tables.
Lovely, warm, easy, nested, convoluted tables. After a few edits, validation wasn't even an option.
With the help of Nick_W, papabaer, DrDoc, and others I have changed my life with CSS. I am now lighter, stronger, and faster with my code.
I am oft tempted by my former addiction, and have even slipped in instances. Please just remember...one day you are back on tables...the next you have been coding <font> tags daily with 100k of html and are trashing the W3C for not "understanding". Don't let it happend to you.
This has been a public service announcement.
If you think you are someone you know has a problem...please keep coming back to this forum.
There is help. We can give you tutorials.
Although my clients sometimes force me to indulge again. It is not pleasant when this occurs but serves as a painful reminder that they are there tempting me in everyday life.
fortunately my new addiction (CSS) enables me to cope with tables as well so a compromise is easily reached in most cases and I can return to my "safe" world with the help of this forum.
Thanks to all those on Webmaster World who helped!
[edited by: TheDoctor at 7:17 pm (utc) on Oct. 31, 2003]
Tables, every now and again I like to crack open a can of 'table' and place it inside my css laid out page. One step at a time and the addiction will fade. Though I love an injection of table for tabular data.
It really wasn't my fault! Someone else made me talk to Nav4 again :(
I'm here to tell you, if you're gonna change your life, you gotta' make new friends.
I just heard there were donuts at this meeting.
no intention of giving up using tables
Fluid 2 and 3 column layouts [glish.com]
CSS Centering [bluerobot.com]
Generate 2 and 3 column layouts [wannabegirl.org]
I sorta get the idea but it’s a pain in the arse, let’s face tables do what they do and then I can always use css as a hack when I need it, but I am trying, bloody SuzyUk made me.
Hehe she’s going to be responsible for the debugging of my site, which hasn’t been update for 15 months…. And there are many many things that she is responsible for. Nutscrape forget it, it’s dead, and Mozilla, yuk terrible rendering. Opera, that’s the 1 does everything it says on the tin.
I use this layout too frequently to switch from tables.
I guess that's what gurus like to hear: I saw the light, and this changed my life forever. Many have followed us, it's not a question if, but when you will too. :-)
I eliminated my table usage a couple of weeks ago, but must admit that I'm steadily increasing the file size of my css injections.
I've cut out all my self-destructive usage of t****s for page layout.
I still use them for tabular data, but I can handle it.
Though sometimes I get confused. Are the boxes you are reading this in best as a big table because it is tabular data or what?
joined:Dec 9, 2001
However, I have some old pages with table-based layouts that I'm feeling guilty about.
joined:June 2, 2003
Help me. It's so dark in here.......
That just about sizes up where I'm at with CSS. I've read and read and read, but "touch it and play with it"? Noooooo. That's scary and I can't get over it.
joined:June 27, 2000