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Metal Widget or Titanium Widget?

Titanium is a type of metal, so how do you optimize both?

         

centrifugal

12:17 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So let's hypothetically say i sell titanium widgets, but they're also metal widgets. I'm sort of stuck with optimizing each page for either titanium widgets or metal widgets.
Because titaniums more descriptive and accurate, I optimize for titanium. But Im missing out on the searchers for metal widgets. I cant just optimize for metal titanium widgets as it doesnt read right.
I cant create duplicate pages with the keywords switched.
I could try squeezing metal into the content, but that also would be awkward and tricky, same for title, h1 tags, etc.
Titanium widgets could account for only half my traffic if only I could optimize for metal widgets! Any ideas, insight, or obvious facts that I don't realize?

hobbnet

2:13 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, you have two major things to consider.

1. Number of searches made for each keyphrase
2. Number of results (competing pages) that exist.

I would say if one term has a lot more searches made on it and doesn't have many more results than the other go for that one. But, often times it can be a hard decision as to which side you want to go for. You may have to decide how hard you want to work on SEOing your website and how valuable the "titanium" targetting is worth.

buckworks

2:49 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I cant create duplicate pages with the keywords switched.

They needn't be duplicate pages .... you could create pages that were quite different in content, one optimized for one term and the other optimized for the other, and both useful to your visitors.

However, it is indeed possible to have the same page rank well for more than one phrase. I know someone whose PR 6 home page shows up in Google's top three for several phrases in the pattern of "elegant widgets", "classy widgets" and "upscale widgets". The page's main SEO focus is the busiest phrase, and the other adjectives are woven into the body text, attributes, etc.. Inbound link text includes an assortment of "widgets" phrases, as well as the company name, domain name, etc.. The page ranked well both before and after Florida.

I'd call the category moderately competitive; it's a big-dollar industry with a few SEOs who clearly know what they're doing, but there's little or no affiliate activity to clog up the SERPs.

SirFroggZ

3:51 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could create another website specific for titanium widgets and metal widgets

centrifugal

11:59 pm on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>You could create another website specific for titanium widgets and metal widgets
Thats an interesting idea... biggest obstacle would actually be rebuilding pr... food for thought for sure...

PatrickDeese

12:22 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The best Metal Widgets are the ones made from Titanium, according to a recent article in <a>Consumer Reports</a>.

In fact, Acme Brand Titanium Widgets were rated at the top of all Metal Widget Manufacturers.

Etc.

centrifugal

4:23 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thats pretty much what I'll be doing, but finding content in my niche is tough, guess, Ill be writing my own copy.
Anyone know if squeezing both metal widget and titanium widget in the title is considered spamming?
thanks.

Brett_Tabke

1:51 pm on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>could create pages that were quite different in
>content, one optimized for one term and the other
>optimized for the other

exactly. And why stop there? You could do every variation on the theme and come up with 10-****x pages on each topic. Or build a whole domain around it.

centrifugal

4:51 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So the answer is content? Sounds good to me.