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Quest Regarding these META Tactics

Will this get us anywhere?

         

u4eas

1:04 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We have a guy who works for us and he added this to one of our websites this week... not sure this is legit, as most of the words dont appear in context or are even related to our company, he said he knows it will get us listed quick and high in the search engines....

Not sure, I believe it.... if anyone has any comments on what he is doing I would greatly appreciate your thoughts....

Here are the meta tags he placed on the home page.

<meta name="KEYWORD" content="XXXX franchise">

<meta name="TOP 10 KEYWORDS" content="franchise, XXXX, advertising specialties, promotional products, imprinted, pens, t-shirts, caps, mugs, mouse pads, safety programs, fundraising, kringle, logo merchandise">

<meta name="keywords" content="franchise, XXXX, asi supplier, ppia ppai, advertising specialties, imprinted promotional products, fundraising, specialty promotions, corporate business gifts, imprinted souvenirs, premiums, incentives, advertising speicialties promotional products personalized souvenirs, Racine, WI, mugs, printing, golf balls, flash lights, Pens, watches, clocks, wristbands, visa bands, balloons, matchbooks, banners, key tags, calanders, pencils, markers, hi-lighters, magnets, address books, cups, steins, coolers, flyers, frisbees, hats, caps, baseball, football, kenosha, milwaukee, wisconsin, illinois, minnesota, iowa, indiana, chicago, new york, california, new jersey, texas, arizona, florida, arizona, texas, iowa, nebraska, minnisota, north, midwest, ohio, indiana, california, new york, ca, ny, wi, tx, texas, dallas">

<meta name="Description" content="XXXX and Promotional Products to promote your business including mugs golf balls wristbands pens pencils shirts matchbooks banners">

<meta name="revisit-after" content="15 days">
<meta name="robots" content="index all, follow all">

WebGuerrilla

1:10 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Run Forest, Run.

u4eas

1:15 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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actually i would say that the keywords are 95% accurate as to what we do.... there are a couple of em that have nothing to do with us....

the owner of the company gave him 30 days to try this, against my recommendations...

it seems he only did this on the home page...

he did change the title of the home page and bold, italicized our company name on multiple pages.

anyone have any other comments?

thx =)

u4eas

1:16 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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by the way the XXXX's are the type of franchise we are... just blocked it out as per rules.

SinclairUser

1:19 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Top 10 keywords" content="I","did","not","know","about",
"the","top","ten","keyword","option"...

Does this SEO have any other great ideas to share with us!

;O)

u4eas

1:21 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kinda crazy eh...

Id love to hear what Google Guy thinks of this =)

Macguru

1:21 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi u4eas,

Wathever the accuracy of those keywords, meta tags have very, very, very little to do on how well some site ranks on search engines.

Those metatag pushers ar known as 'metatage companies'. They abuse people with totally inneficient services. Stop waisting your time with those clowns.

Ever heard about the secret Jedi trick metatag?

<fixed speeling> thanks Woz!</fixed speeling>

[edited by: Macguru at 2:48 am (utc) on May 8, 2003]

pageoneresults

1:23 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Run Forest, Run.

WG, you are always so diplomatic! ;)

<meta name="revisit-after" content="15 days">
<meta name="robots" content="index all, follow all">

Both of the above tags are invalid. The revisit tag is a myth carried over from the ole' days. There are no robots-terms index all, or follow all. The default behavior of the spider is to index and follow, the tag is not required. Once the term all appears in the tag, it overrides all other terms and effectively becomes all...

<meta name="robots" content="all">

I've seen em' all. Top ten keywords? Where did that one come from. As WG said...

Run Forest, Run!

u4eas

1:23 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Macguru:

This guy is actually an employee of our company...
At least I stopped him from doing hidden spammy stuff.

I wish it were that easy to get rid of him =( but it wont be, he has everyone thinking he knows what he is doing... except i dont buy it one bit.

pageoneresults

1:27 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ever heard about the secret Jedy trick metatag?

Macguru, do tell!

u4eas, I believe a pink slip is in order for this individual.

deejay

1:28 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Might I suggest a little rephrasing?

"not sure this is legit, as most of the words dont appear in context or are even related to our company"

to

"Sure, this is not legit as most of the words dont appear in context or are (not) even related to our company"

... that, plus what everyone else has said... is your answer.

If you want to give him a helping hand, you might send him here for an education. If you are not so kindly disposed towards him, you might just sit back for a month :)

pageoneresults

1:29 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Id love to hear what Google Guy thinks of this =)

I doubt very seriously that GG will comment on this one. It is basically a no-brainer. Whoever did this is clueless. Many of us are having a fairly good chuckle over this I'm sure.

Macguru

1:35 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>This guy is actually an employee of our company...

Sorry u4eas,

I missunderstood that.

>>Macguru, do tell!

I believe grnidone invented this one... not sure. ;)

>>u4eas, I believe a pink slip is in order for this individual.

Buy him a decent suit [clownsoport.com]. He will need it for the interviews...

u4eas

1:48 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thx guys/gals...

im still very new to SEO, so you have reenforced my opinions on this whole thing... I didnt think this was legit, but I had to ask =)

Chris_R

1:48 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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he said he knows it will get us listed quick and high in the search engines

THese guys also know if they go to atlantic city - place $2 on black, and then if they lose, place $4, then $8...

Oh nevermind.

Anyway - as the esteemed members above have pointed out - this guy is useless. Unfortunately - so are most employees. One of my friend's runs a company that does high level research that is used by technology firms. They hire PhDs and people with masters degrees to do the research - and you wouldn't believe they crap they turn in.

One guy (a PhD) turned in a print out of the Google SERPs for the term he was supposed to do in depth research using various databases. This was pretty easily spotted by my friend who is a semi google expert. And none of the pages met the criteria anyway. He claimed he spent 4 hours doing the research (all he turned in was a cut and past of the top 50 google results for this device - with the words "cached" and "similar pages" in there too) - It took less than one minute - or maybe 2.

u4eas

1:50 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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heh I wish I could post his website because if you all got a kick outta this youd love to see what he did to his own site.

HitProf

10:57 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi u4eas,

Glad to read you prevented him from spamming :)

If he has 30 days to prove himself, don't worry. They will pass. Just make sure he doesn't 'prove' himself with engines and directories nobody has ever heard of.

And if it doesn't help, it doesn't hurt either. Keep on reading Webmasterworld and make sure you can otimize the site yourself after the experiment is over.

iThink

1:01 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Looks like the webmaster under question read some SEO manuals from 1997-1998.