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Choosing keyword



1:01 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have done some reasearch with Wordtracker.I am looking for good keyword for my site.Could you suggest me what keyword to use.The results were as follows:
1. phrase with : Competing 241194 and Count 602
3. phrase with : Competing 9414 and Count 145
3. phrase with : Competing 1931 and Count 93

Is it very hard to get good position with that kind of competition?


10:51 am on Apr 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Paff3, I dont think it would that diffcult as those numbers look pretty low to me. If you follow all the hints and tips and general good advice from this place, #1 spot shouldnt be that difficult. Why not aim at all three KW's its ease depends on how similar those words are, but it shouldnt be too diffuclt to optimise your pages for three KW's.

If you are only going to go for one KW then go for the one you feel youll get teh most traffic from when you rank highly. Its no use being #1 for a phrase the gives you rubbish amounts of traffic.

Hope that helps.



4:26 pm on Apr 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The answer to your question depends a lot on your keyword market, your PageRank, and your abilities. It also depends on whether or not your "competing" numbers are exact-matches or non-exact-matches.

If your competing numbers are exact matches of the phrase (i.e. with quotes in Google) then I believe the 241194 keyword would be very difficult to rank well on in any reasonably competitive market. If your competing numbers are just matches (i.e. without quotes in Google) then I start to agree with Mike12345 but still I am still not as confident as he is about #1 across the board.

If I had to make a choice, then I would rather target 7 different phrases with the data of the third keyword (Competing 1931 and Count 93) instead of just the first phrase (Competing 241194 and Count 602). I think relative comparisons between keywords within the same market is what makes analysis of "count" and "competing" data worthwhile.

Sarah Atkinson

6:24 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What is WordTracker?


6:32 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sarah Atkinson

7:22 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Marcial

What are people feeling aboult things like WordTracker?

Do they realy help? OR is just guessing what people would type in just as good? I have made a long list of keywords that I think our potintial custumers would use based on our product and looking at what keywords bring users to our site.


5:17 pm on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it is worth it.You can discover very good keywords.You should also check this out


1:34 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The Software "Best Promotion Keyword" provide a best factor
according to search popularity and competition. Top best factor mean less competition and more search popularity.
you can find it from

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 7:23 pm (utc) on May 12, 2003]
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9:23 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"Its no use being #1 for a phrase the gives you rubbish amounts of traffic."

I suppose it all depends on how you define "rubbish amounts" but I was under the impression that if you can optimize a page of solid information for a keyword that ranks high and brings you SOME traffic, and then repeat the process for other keywords and keyword phrases, then eventually you will have a goodly number of pages bringing you (in aggregate) a goodly amount of traffic.

True? Not true?


10:47 pm on May 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Unless your website business model is purely volume-driven (e.g. add impressions) then conversions may be the most important number to look at, rather than raw traffic.

For instance, I have a client who is placed well on 10 not-so-competitive and not-frequently-searched-for phrases. The traffic from all those phrases combined comes in at about 50 uniques per month. On the average, two of those uniques will "convert" - that is, become a customer. And one customer for this business is a minimum of a 5-figure contract.

The fine targeting to those not-so-competitive phrases does wonders for them. And they never pay an extra bandwidth charge!


2:44 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ah, but how do you track conversions, tedster?

Is it simply a matter of knowing that, for example, 20 visitors means 1 conversion overall, then extrapolating (assuming? guessing?) that for every 20 visitors who are drawn to a newly optimized page one of them will buy?


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