Better Keyword Tools?

[Hefner]

I've been using Overture's Inventory Suggestion tool for as long as I can remember, and Wordtracker for a few months now. I was wondering if there were other forms similar to these that would report keywords searched on other engines? Although some people may disagree WT has been giving me limited keyword results, and Overture's results just aren't as correct as they used to be.. any suggestions?

[spherica]

You can also use Google keyword suggestion tool for added help.

I also use WT and have found it most useful, but at times use google's for added support to my findinds

[Woz]

>results just aren't as correct as they used to be

One trick is to check your keywords on all the Overture tools, US, UK, DE, FR and even JP. You would be surprised at the ideas you can come up with on the other O Tools that do not appear on the US one. Also, the de-pluralizing and match-drive-alphabetization some times does not appear on the other tools.

Onya
Woz

[PerStrand]

What I do is that I use Overture's Inventory Suggestion tool. The reason apart from it been free is that as far as I know this is the best statistical tool if you really want to dig deep and brainstorm for keywords.
Their statistics has been unreliable when you come down to less searched keywords. One reason is because the PPC bid optimizing services have distorted the statistics when they did automatic searches for their clients.
Now when Overture have stopped that possibility it has become better.
I divide up the statistic for plural. Normally plural as I have seen represents about 10% of all searches.
Otherwise you can check with WordTracker. I use AdWords and see what the ratio is for high traffic keywords.

[rmjvol]

Surely it can vary by what you're looking at but

Normally plural as I have seen represents about 10% of all searches.

that's WAY off from what I usually see. I'd say most nouns I keep an eye on range from 50% to 80% are plural and a much smaller propotion are singular.

In other words, people are more likely to search for "widget makers" than "widget maker."

rmjvol

[Craig_F]

you have to pay to get access to it, but bCentral Submit It! now offers a KW tool using MSN data.

[Susanne]

Try this: [espotting.com...]

[sun818]

Has anyone been using the keyword list some meta engines and Teoma provide you to perform a drill down of your search? I haven't tried it myself, but it seems like a nice complement to Overture Keyword Suggestion Tool.

[Chris_R]

google labs
findwhat

are also somewhat useful.

[sem4u]

You could try the keyword suggestions on the search at excite.com

[garylo]

Overture's and Wordtracker are the standard. FindWhat.com has a tool too but you need to register to be able to use it.

[StephenRKnight]

Hi

Via Google just found this address for Overture Tool dated 28 June 2002 - it doesn't exist - anyone know where it's gone to?

[webmasterworld.com...]

Thank you - Stephen

[tedster]

It's just:

[inventory.overture.com...]

...without the WebmasterWorld cgi stuff.